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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:16 PM
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My D90 was borrowed

Forever.

About a month back I had my 1984 D90 Stolen. It was in the garage, we were out of state for about a week. It was not a pleasant home coming. Someone broke into the house, (which has a decent security system to include cameras) and opened the garage door. From there, who knows.

I debated getting a GPS tracker for it. Wish I had.

It is clear at this point I wont be finding the truck, at least in tact.

How do I prepare a potential low ball offer for the ACV of the truck? They are still deciding on an offer, I have yet to see one. Frankly I am assuming the worst. My insurance is USAA, I am not sure if anyone else has had this happen to them.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:17 PM
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Show them a bunch of eBay listings of similar trucks.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:20 PM
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That's a nightmare. Are you in big city KS or more rural?

I'm sorry.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:23 PM
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Big city.

Honestly, with the way things are going, you have to get some kind of GPS on your rig.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:29 PM
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Theft in the UK since discontinue went up a lot---from 50-70% depending on the report (Land Rover Defender thefts up by 69% as values rise | Autocar ) . It saddens me greatly to hear yours was stolen! I hope that you do get it back, but as you say, it isn't likely. I hope those assholes rot in hell.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:33 PM
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I've always been super happy with USAA, even with claims (not a defender though). You should already know what they consider your truck is worth, now it's just how much below or above (they gave me replacement value on some household items that were stolen) they are going to offer you. Like Jimmie said if you aren't happy with the offer give them supporting material.

Keep us posted I'm very interested in the outcome... and a gps unit.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:34 PM
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Big city.

Honestly, with the way things are going, you have to get some kind of GPS on your rig.
It won't matter, real car thieves will find a tracker on a Defender real quick.

Your truck is probably in the river.

Reject the first offer whatever it is, make them do the homework again. Then if the counter isn't to your liking, contact Will Hedrick and have him draft a letter with attached information on comparable vehicles.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:46 PM
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We use GPS at at work and the company pays a monthly fee for each vehicle. I found and ordered some from a company called aspecta to try out because they were less than half the hardware cost ($100-130) and only $30 a year fee (1st year included with purchase). The cheaper model is wireless which is cool except charging can be a pain. But, it does send you a text saying the battery is low. This unit can be used anywhere, even your luggage when you travel. The more expensive unit is hardwired and I haven't had it installed in a vehicle yet so can't really report on it.

I have found that the accuracy to be hit or miss. Locating present location has been off by as much as 2000 feet but when looking at movement or "tracks", it's been nearly exact.

The expensive hardwired units (NexTraq) are dead nuts, all the time. We've had to use it multiple times to locate vehicles for various reasons. But $300-$500 per year, per vehicle, plus $300+ hardware and install is steep.

I would say the cheap one meets the need for location in an emergency, at a very reasonable price. I know this is a day late and a dollar short for the OP but maybe others will pick one of these up.

I'll try to report back on the cheap hardwired unit once it gets installed.

OP, I hope its found soon!
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:52 PM
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We use GPS at at work and the company pays a monthly fee for each vehicle. I found and ordered some from a company called aspecta to try out because they were less than half the hardware cost ($100-130) and only $30 a year fee (1st year included with purchase). The cheaper model is wireless which is cool except charging can be a pain. But, it does send you a text saying the battery is low. This unit can be used anywhere, even your luggage when you travel. The more expensive unit is hardwired and I haven't had it installed in a vehicle yet so can't really report on it.

I have found that the accuracy to be hit or miss. Locating present location has been off by as much as 2000 feet but when looking at movement or "tracks", it's been nearly exact.

The expensive hardwired units (NexTraq) are dead nuts, all the time. We've had to use it multiple times to locate vehicles for various reasons. But $300-$500 per year, per vehicle, plus $300+ hardware and install is steep.

I would say the cheap one meets the need for location in an emergency, at a very reasonable price. I know this is a day late and a dollar short for the OP but maybe others will pick one of these up.

I'll try to report back on the cheap hardwired unit once it gets installed.

OP, I hope its found soon!
Solid advice, and frankly I should have been punching that ticket a while back.
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Old June 4th, 2016, 07:54 AM
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Sorry your Defender was jacked. Did they come for the Defender only or was your house ransacked also? I'm a fan of crowd sourcing solutions and see something like the Tile App being a potential solution in a few years. Would probably be effective in NYC already. At a onetime fee of $25, couldn't hurt to zip-tie one someplace inconspicuous.

Update - reading about the Aspenta now. I'm sold on the geofence capabilities alone. Just like an anchor alarm on a nav/chart plotter (or most nav apps). How long between charges?
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Old June 4th, 2016, 09:40 AM
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I've gotten about a week between charges. The best feature I've found is the alarm function. You can press alarm on the mobile phone app and if the unit moves, you get an email or text nearly instantly. The expensive Nextraq system will also send email alerts but not text and their app isn't nearly as good as the aspenta. Personally, the text alert is more useful to me. I've used press on Velcro to attach it inside the dash cubby. Not the most covert but easy to attach/detach. Plan to test it to see if the signal will work from inside the Tuffy box but haven't done it yet.

Hardwired is the way to go for set and forget purposes as well as being hidden inside the dash. I hesitate with the D for fear of draining the battery on the truck.

Any electrical experts that can tell from the website if the draw is significant enough to kill the battery?
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Old June 4th, 2016, 11:18 AM
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I seem to recall some time back someone mentioning about hardwiring an old iPhone inside somewhere.

I believe the concept is you can still track an iPhone even one not on a data plan or in use anymore.
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Old June 4th, 2016, 11:24 AM
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How many thieves know how to drive sticks?
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Old June 4th, 2016, 11:28 AM
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This was someone who knew what they were after. They were in and out.

To think I would park often thinking the same thing about the 5 speed being a major deterrent anymore in the US to thieves.
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Old June 4th, 2016, 11:40 AM
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This was someone who knew what they were after. They were in and out. To think I would park often thinking the same thing about the 5 speed being a major deterrent anymore in the US to thieves.
We should start a sticky thread that documents stolen trucks.
Post some photos of what we should be on the lookout for.
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Old June 4th, 2016, 11:50 AM
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Big city.

Honestly, with the way things are going, you have to get some kind of GPS on your rig.
It does not really help unless they are amateurs. It is easy enough to detect and disable.
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Old June 4th, 2016, 11:52 AM
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How many thieves know how to drive sticks?
In the heartland ?
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Old June 4th, 2016, 02:18 PM
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In the heartland ?
Let's be honest ... if someone drove a flatbed up to most people's garage while they were away ... with the full flashing lights, Day-Glo jacket and a clipboard and proceeded to load your truck ... very few people would be stopped ... anyone who did stop them would hear the plausible excuse that it was not starting and going to the dealer.

A defender makes a poor getaway car but looks perfectly at home on a flatbed.
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Old June 4th, 2016, 04:45 PM
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Then there is this great club online that tells everyone where the trucks are?
Anyone can join this right?

If you went away for a week then someone was watching closer that you would like to imagine.
Something to ponder...
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