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Old January 6th, 2016, 01:18 AM
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Millennial anti-theft Device!

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Old January 6th, 2016, 01:36 AM
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Haha! Worth every penny! I don't even lock up.

And don't forget the WTF pedal! ;-)
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Old January 6th, 2016, 01:48 AM
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Aside from owning a stick, where can you get a car to simply teach someone to drive stick?

No rental car company has them anymore.

My millennial lady friend needs to learn to handle the stick, but there's not a snowballs chance in hell il teaching her on the defender.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 02:10 AM
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My millennial lady friend needs to learn to handle "THE" stick
Wait, what are we talking about here? ;-)

I've taught on the 90. These clutches are tough and the power.....well, limited. Perfect combo. Just get yourself out of the city! Hit San Mateo or something else flat and lifeless ;-)
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Old January 6th, 2016, 02:12 AM
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Defender is among the easiest stick to drive and the clutch is pretty durable. Plus you can start teaching in low and it is near impossible to stall.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 03:01 AM
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Are you kidding?!
The ones stealing the vehicles in Texas are the Latin Americans. Guess what they all drive as their personal vehicles? Full size Chevy, Ford, or Dodge pickup trucks with obnoxious sounding V6 and manual transmission.

So there blows your theory of a stick being an anti theft device. It may work in Chicago or NYC. Not here.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 03:29 AM
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Old January 6th, 2016, 03:30 AM
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Are you kidding?! The ones stealing the vehicles in Texas are the Latin Americans. Guess what they all drive as their personal vehicles? Full size Chevy, Ford, or Dodge pickup trucks with obnoxious sounding V6 and manual transmission. So there blows your theory of a stick being an anti theft device. It may work in Chicago or NYC. Not here.
I believe you. I guess it's all relative.

But at least in Texas, if you're parked on your own land, you can castle law their A$$.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 08:16 AM
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I guess I'm "technically" a millennial. Out of the 4 vehicles I've owned, 3 have been sticks(including the current one, which was originally a ZF)



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Defender is among the easiest stick to drive and the clutch is pretty durable. Plus you can start teaching in low and it is near impossible to stall.
Not only Defenders, but any LT77/R380/MT82. Especially with the diesel gearing. Stalling my truck with the tdi, diesel R380, in low range, 4.11 gears, is near impossible. My girlfriend learned pretty quickly how to work the setup.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 03:34 PM
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Defender is among the easiest stick to drive and the clutch is pretty durable. Plus you can start teaching in low and it is near impossible to stall.
I learned on a Toyota pickup, very similar to defender in clutch behavior; I always recommend trucks because of the clutch action.

It's harder to learn on a car because of the 'feel' of the pedal and stick. I'd teach my girl on my rover if she wasn't such a horrible driver. But all and all it's likely one of the most affordable clutches you could burn out in terms of serviceability

Fwiw I'm a millennial and have owned 6 manual cars and 2 manual trucks (into the ground) my tdi be would've been a stick if I could've found one in black on black with a pano
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Old January 6th, 2016, 03:41 PM
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I guess I'm "technically" a millennial. Out of the 4 vehicles I've owned, 3 have been sticks(including the current one, which was originally a ZF)


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You are forgiven...


Not only Defenders, but any LT77/R380/MT82. Especially with the diesel gearing. Stalling my truck with the tdi, diesel R380, in low range, 4.11 gears, is near impossible. My girlfriend learned pretty quickly how to work the setup.
There is an aptitude required here. My wife, and I love her, has trouble with a 10 speed bike!
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Old January 6th, 2016, 03:46 PM
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Pah. I've only owned one auto in my life. None of the children ever had trouble learning to drive a stick.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 03:50 PM
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Damn I just looked up who qualifies and I fell in. Agewise. Im the first of this generation so dont lump the rest of them with me.

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Defender is among the easiest stick to drive and the clutch is pretty durable. Plus you can start teaching in low and it is near impossible to stall.
It can be done. My wife nearly murdered mine.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 03:56 PM
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There is an aptitude required here. My wife, and I love her, has trouble with a 10 speed bike!
No doubt... I taught my ex on S60R and ended up needing a new clutch the following month
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Old January 6th, 2016, 04:10 PM
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Fwiw I'm a millennial and have owned 6 manual cars and 2 manual trucks (into the ground) my tdi be would've been a stick if I could've found one in black on black with a pano
You couldnt find a stick on one of the most common manual vehicles? I also wouldn't bother with an automatic TDI.

I am at the later end of millennial. I much prefer standard, have owned 3 autos, and 6 manuals, 1 RHD. I only buy the automatics on the vehicles where it is significantly more expensive to find a manual in the same condition (used diesel pickups). Although you post this on a car forum, so any millennial here will know how to drive stick.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 05:23 PM
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Although you post this on a car forum, so any millennial here will know how to drive stick.
Spot on.

Born in '83, which technically lumps me into that category. Personally, I identify partially with Genx and Millennials. I feel like I'm in a sort of half-generation skip. I heard someone argue the case for calling us the Oregon Trail Generation, and I agree.

Anyway, my D90 is the first auto I've ever owned. I still have this urge to get a birth year Porsche 930, "the widow maker."
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Old January 6th, 2016, 07:27 PM
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While stick is good, RHD is the ultimate deterrant. Several of the (few) times I was forced to valet it, it wouldn't be moved. I'm certain it wasn't for its looks either
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Like everyone else is saying. Just put her in the Drivers seat of your 90 and have her learn on a hill going up. She will learn real fast.
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Old January 7th, 2016, 12:14 AM
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Aside from owning a stick, where can you get a car to simply teach someone to drive stick?

No rental car company has them anymore.

My millennial lady friend needs to learn to handle the stick, but there's not a snowballs chance in hell il teaching her on the defender.
You should use a service like relay rides (now called Turo) https://turo.com to essentially rent a stick car from someone nearby for the day or longer to teach a stick to someone. You can rent a fiat 500 or any stick car pretty easily for cheap. That's what I would do.
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