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Old March 15th, 2011, 09:57 PM
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Did those old turbodieslel engines get a bad rap? I remember them as loud and smelly, but with crappy performance to boot! Has this guy or others like him "tamed" the engines?

Check out BMW's new TDi advertising, they have 70's and 80's Benzes blowing black smoke as negative comparisons to the modern diesels.

How different are the modern TDi's from BMW, Audi (and Land Rover I suppose) from the 70's and 80's tubodiesels?
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Nope, my '84 300TDT was the shit. My son loved the 3rd row rear facing seat like I used to love when I was a kid... I think I could piss in the W-123 5-cyl cast iron block and it would burn it as fuel.
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Old March 15th, 2011, 10:26 PM
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What kind of mileage do these diesels get? Are they safe compared to newer cars? I.E. would you let your teenager drive it?
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Old March 15th, 2011, 10:34 PM
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My rig got 28-30 mpg driving locally, 32+ on the highway. I would let a teen drive it for sure- the 0-60 time is in the minutes, but the torque is great, and the ride on the highway was to die for... definitely made for the autobahn... we nick-named it the "lead sled" because it was so heavy (especially the engine). one of the smoothest rides i've had, and it's built solid as a rock, so in a crash it would be hard to find a safer vehicle... imho.
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Old March 16th, 2011, 09:13 AM
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Not cheap but ive never seen one with so few miles on it...

http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/2202668926.html
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Old March 16th, 2011, 10:03 AM
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Not cheap but ive never seen one with so few miles on it...

http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/2202668926.html
Looks good wonder about rust. Could have a bad crossmember
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Old March 16th, 2011, 10:07 AM
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My rig got 28-30 mpg driving locally, 32+ on the highway. I would let a teen drive it for sure- the 0-60 time is in the minutes, but the torque is great, and the ride on the highway was to die for... definitely made for the autobahn... we nick-named it the "lead sled" because it was so heavy (especially the engine). one of the smoothest rides i've had, and it's built solid as a rock, so in a crash it would be hard to find a safer vehicle... imho.
Yes, lead sled is a good name for these vehicles. Not very fast off the line but once they got going they did very well. I think it would be a fine auto for a teen - especially if you could find a manual gearbox version (as I think all kids should learn to drive a manual for multiple reasons).

Charles - I believe Mercedes had a lot of safety features designed into these and were ahead of many other manufacturers with crumple zones, 4 wheel disc brakes and collapsable steering wheels. IDK, they just felt tank like. Just make sure the floors in them are solid (I remember those would rust out very quickly).
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Its an hour away let me know if you want me to check it out for you.
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Old March 16th, 2011, 10:41 AM
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Nope, my '84 300TDT was the shit. My son loved the 3rd row rear facing seat like I used to love when I was a kid... I think I could piss in the W-123 5-cyl cast iron block and it would burn it as fuel.
I loved those W123 wagons/estates - very cool looking car! We have a W211 E500 with the rear facing seats and it's a great vehicle too. Great on the highway and plenty of room - wish we had a MB TD in it tho!
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As long as you get the 300D turbo, they are relatively spritely. The advantage is, unlike modern diesels, they are nearly indestructable. Think of them like a cummins for a car. OTOH, the small car diesels now drive pretty much like gas motors, but I can see one getting 500k out of a new diesel. The bigger diesels (V6 in merc and audi, 35d BMW) are ok, but you have to add urea every 5k to get emissions down. On VW 2.0 Tdi, they have a DPF which is like a fancy cat instead of urea.
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Dr. Aaron is selling an '81 SD now, made Jalopnik -> http://jalopnik.com/#!5782379/for-39...is-a-fuel-slut
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Throw some tint on that baby and I'd look and feel like an african dictator!

I don't see either my wife or the teenager buying into one of these, but I'm going to lobby for one!
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Old March 16th, 2011, 01:36 PM
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Charles your teen will get to say they drive a benz!... could be worse. my parents gave me 1977 Green Ford Granada! Or the grenade as my friends called it. Which i promptly sold to buy an alfa spider and my addiction to cars that i couldnt really afford and spent too much time working on and not enough time driving began....
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Yeah they will love it. My wagon had bright blue MB Tex interior which was in style, went out of style, and now appears to be marginally back in style again!
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Stay away from non turbo diesel models. They make the turbos seem like Ferraris.

Comparing snails and tortoises of course
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This is the one I really wanted

http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/car.php?id=47

You either love or hate blue for an interior color.

As for turbos I would think it is just something to break. The one I drove wasn't a turbo and I didn't care.
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I forgot to mention one of the best parts of this guy's business. His company name is Mercedes Motoring and instead of suing the guy, Mercedes embraces what he does and promotes him. Land Rover could learn a lot from enthusiasts and their heritage.
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This is the one I really wanted

http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/car.php?id=47

You either love or hate blue for an interior color.

As for turbos I would think it is just something to break. The one I drove wasn't a turbo and I didn't care.
The 300TD wagon has always been on my list of favorite benzes especially in this color combo. Any idea how much that one sold for?

------ Follow up post added March 18th, 2011 09:41 AM ------

By the way...those guys are such hipsters.
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My father is addicted to diesel MB's. He's has three now an '85 300D turbo, '85 300SD and an '87 300SDL. I love the W123 body style, one of the most iconic IMO along with the Porsche 911 and Series/Defender of course The cast iron diesel engines, pre-85, will run forever. His '85 300SD has 450K+ miles on it and it's still going. The prices of these have skyrocketed in the last 5 years. He bought the '85 300D turbo locally with 88K miles for $4000 about 7 years ago. He had an '83 300D non-turbo but with a four speed manual. I'd like to have that one back...
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