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Old August 14th, 2015, 01:32 PM
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Planning to check out a 2012 LR4 tomorrow... time to send my wife's '04 DII out to pasture.

I've read a little about the LR4s and drove one at the dealership some time ago (what a difference from the disco!) but unsure as to what their common ailments are. Anyone have some advice on what to look at specifically for this year?

And yes I do understand they apparently go through tires and brakes but what else mechanically? Transmissions? I think I read about differentials being troublesome? Any way to troubleshoot?
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Old August 14th, 2015, 01:43 PM
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Control arm bushings. Same issue as LR3 I think. If the truck shakes like the tires arent balanced it can be the bushings.
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Old August 14th, 2015, 01:48 PM
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I've got a 2012 that I bought used in 2012 with about 13k miles. Bought it at the LR dealer with an extended warranty. It now has about 71k miles. The only thing that has failed that was warrantable so far has been the power windows wouldn't roll up automatically (lifting and holding the power window button still worked); the fix was a reset in the computer. It's had a couple of other minor electronic glitches: once the rear electronic difflock kicked in at freeway speeds due to a very dusty paved interstate; a new battery was dead two weeks after purchase; the seatbelt chime/warning light is flaky during long road trips if you unbuckle your seatbelt while in park. Overall, the biggest pain is buying the recommended oil, which can only be purchased at a Land Rover or Jaguar dealership. Pretty trouble free.
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Old August 14th, 2015, 01:52 PM
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(lifting and holding the power window button still worked)
but who has time (or energy) for that!?!
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Is it really that difficult to source the oil?! crazy!

Are there no other suitable replacements? I guess buying oil at dealership marked up prices isn't the end of the world for a "reliable LR"
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Is it really that difficult to source the oil?! crazy!

Are there no other suitable replacements? I guess buying oil at dealership marked up prices isn't the end of the world for a "reliable LR"
I searched for alternative oil sources after I bought the truck and found two other companies that made oil that met the spec - one in Europe (Germany?) and one in Canada; neither would ship to the US or had on-line storefronts. I don't know if that's changed since.

Since oil changes are pretty infrequent (manual calls for every 12000 miles, if I recall), it's not too much of a pain. I usually buy 24 quarts at a time (4 cases); each oil change takes about 8 quarts (a bit more if you drain via the drain plug; a bit less if you suck it out via the oil tube). Extended warranty calls for 6000 mile oil changes, so that's how often I've been doing it. Price for the oil at the San Antonio Jag dealer is about $12 a quart; it's more expensive at Land Rover San Antonio (nearly $13 a quart) and Land Rover Austin ($15+ a quart), so call around.

No way to reset the "Service Required" notification if you do it yourself. The dealership charges $300 or so for the oil change (the oil filter is about $50), and they just suck the oil out, but they do reset the notification for you; personally, it's not worth the extra $150 plus the hour drive each way to me to clear a message you only see when you start the engine.

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but who has time (or energy) for that!?!
Tell me about it - and they expect me to push a button to start the truck too. It should just know when to start...
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I don't have a newer Rover, but what is so special about Rover specific oil that no other manufacture has that's compatible?

I use Schaefer Oil which is pricey to begin with.
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I know they have special oil for the Transfer Case and Diffs. I run Mobil 1 in my LR3s motor. I know the LR4 5.0 is a different Motor.
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We put 36,000 miles on our 2012 LR4.

No warranty issues or problems.

Did have to do tires, rotors and pads at around 35,000.

Otherwise nothing negative except for annoying nav system.

Was amazing truck for long distance rides - around town not so much.

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We put 36,000 miles on our 2012 LR4.

No warranty issues or problems.

Did have to do tires, rotors and pads at around 35,000.

Otherwise nothing negative except for annoying nav system.

Was amazing truck for long distance rides - around town not so much.

Hope that helps.
Why didn't you like it around town?
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It was amazing on the highway - it was great around town just not amazing - handling was a bit chunky, gas mileage horrible.

Truck was good to us overall - would still have it if wife didn't decide she wanted to get back into a car.
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I love my LR3! I've put almost 40k miles on it in 2 years. Perfect highway cruiser. I would assume the LR4 would be as good if not better.
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Well that was a bust today. The one we went to look at had some issues (warped rotors, missing some trim, and a bad door actuator?). Actually swung by carmax and drove a nice one but was overpriced for what it was. So far have driven three LR4s and think we're totally sold on the model... Just gotta find the right one.

Anyone looking to sell? Prefer white or black sub 50k miles.
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Have other manufacturers gone down this silly path of special fluids only available from the dealership? $300 oil changes and dealing with incompetent dealership staff is a deal breaker for me. And buying a used vehicle that you know was designed for $300 oil changes is pretty scary.
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Have other manufacturers gone down this silly path of special fluids only available from the dealership? $300 oil changes and dealing with incompetent dealership staff is a deal breaker for me. And buying a used vehicle that you know was designed for $300 oil changes is pretty scary.
Try $300 every 30k for fluids for DSG ie auto VW and Audi labor extra
Honda and Acura for their VTM and dual pump diff fluids not available elsewhere. Many more out there if you look around
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Try $300 every 30k for fluids for DSG ie auto VW and Audi labor extra Honda and Acura for their VTM and dual pump diff fluids not available elsewhere. Many more out there if you look around
thanks Rocky. I'm feeling more emotionally attached to our Suburban that has survived 200k miles on $19.99 oil changes every 3-5k miles.
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Hum.... I'm starting to like my LR3 Ford V6 engine quite a lot after reading all this!
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I can't stomach $300 oil changes either.

I used the castrol extended performance from walmart and got a oil test from blackstone after 12k miles or so (manual says 15k and I actually intended to do 7500 but lost track ). Passed with flying colors. Switched to Mobile one this oil change since I couldn't find the castrol this time.
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