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Old August 18th, 2015, 02:58 AM
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I've been using Rotella T6 in our cars the last few years. Now I just read Shell's official position is that it has too much phosphorous for gasoline engined vehicles equipped with catalytic converters, so maybe I'll switch to Castrol or Pennzoil. For the last oil change in the 3-series I put in a mixture of Rotella T6, Castrol Edge/Syntec, and Mobil 1 because it was in the garage. I figured it was fine since it's all synthetic and it's better than dirty oil.
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Old August 18th, 2015, 07:44 AM
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Old August 24th, 2015, 09:29 PM
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Brought home some new wheels this weekend: 2011 LR4 HSE Lux.

Already took It on a short road trip to the beach and we love this thing! The only thing it needs now is a spare key (only got one with the sale). Any one know the going rate for a smart key?
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Old August 24th, 2015, 09:33 PM
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Just had a key for our LR3, it was $500. $350 for the key and $150 to program.
Should be the same for your LR4, Has to be from the dealer BTW...
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Old August 24th, 2015, 09:41 PM
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Jeez.. Hate that I am not surprised. I knew this was going to be a dealer only thing so it is what it is...

Maybe just going to be happy with just the one key
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Old August 25th, 2015, 12:41 PM
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Jeez.. Hate that I am not surprised. I knew this was going to be a dealer only thing so it is what it is... Maybe just going to be happy with just the one key
hope you don't misplace it.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 01:23 PM
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That's highway robbery! I purchased an extra key last year for our LR3 too and I paid $200 plus from Prestige Land Rover in Paramus. The program was free

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Just had a key for our LR3, it was $500. $350 for the key and $150 to program.
Should be the same for your LR4, Has to be from the dealer BTW...
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Old August 25th, 2015, 01:45 PM
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The programming price is negotiable with most dealers- especially if you purchase the key from them. Reference the dealers who offer the best deals and the good ones will price/deal match.

------ Follow up post added August 25th, 2015 09:48 AM ------

The hassle of abandoning a perfectly good truck for a week makes the $200-$400 expense more palatable; especially in hindsight. Plus, its value added for resale. Do it.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 02:37 PM
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You guys are absolutely right that a spare key is a necessity. I also anticipated a spare from the dealership would run 200-300 bucks. $500 for a stupid key is ridiculous. I am gonna shop around for programming.
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What's the story with used ones on ebay? You'd have to get it reprogrammed and get a blank part to rekey it? They seem to be going for pretty cheap.
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Exactly what I was thinking.
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hope you don't misplace it.
Oh like that ever happens
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Old August 26th, 2015, 04:04 PM
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Update: Local dealer wants $400 for new Key (3-5 day wait time too! I would expect white glove, overnight delivery with a happy ending for that kind of cash), $80 for the new key blade, and $150 for programming.

Honestly do people actually pay that much for a key? I don't care who you are, that's a stupid amount for a key. It's insane to think that's roughly the same price as an new unlocked iPhone 6 which I wager is much "smarter" than a LR smart key.

The service guy said they could reprogram an ebay key as long as it's the correct part number... he claims it's almost impossible to know by looking if it's the correct part since "they all look the same."
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Old August 26th, 2015, 04:09 PM
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Damn, it's right up there with the $300 oil changes.

LRNA is throwing ISIS tactics. You lose a key we take an appendage.
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Honestly do people actually pay that much for a key?
Clearly they are, or LR wouldn't be getting away with it.

I have chosen to live in fear of my wife losing the the remaining key, than shell out $500 for another one..for now. I did recently replace the shell on it which makes it look less beat up though
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I bought my used LR3 from a couple that lost both keys. They told me it was $700 for the locksmith to open the truck plus the $500 for the new key (programmed from the dealer). That was enough for me to buy a new one from the dealer at their cost. I was also told that the dealer has to program both the new and old keys together.
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I have a 2013 LR4 that I bought new from LR Bellevue. No mechanical issues so far. Some minor cosmetic/interior issues that I need to see about getting warrantied:

- D/S seatbelt is not retracting and often gets shut in the door, scratching the paint in the door well

- Key fob is falling apart after a year and a half of use. I sure hope they don't charge me $500 for this piece of shit.

- A/C has a funky mildewy smell when you first turn it on but dissipates quickly. No idea what's going on here. Maybe time for a cabin air filter.
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Update: Local dealer wants $400 for new Key (3-5 day wait time too! I would expect white glove, overnight delivery with a happy ending for that kind of cash), $80 for the new key blade, and $150 for programming.

Honestly do people actually pay that much for a key? I don't care who you are, that's a stupid amount for a key. It's insane to think that's roughly the same price as an new unlocked iPhone 6 which I wager is much "smarter" than a LR smart key.

The service guy said they could reprogram an ebay key as long as it's the correct part number... he claims it's almost impossible to know by looking if it's the correct part since "they all look the same."
People actually do; I did. Bought truck, had one key with it-fob died and was tired of pulling off the plastic piece on the door, in winter, to open my damn truck.

Bought ebay key with high hopes.
Unprogrammable from dealer. F.

Decided that this racket is about as awesome as LR4 oil changes and went ahead and ordered through the dealer for the key to be cut based off the VIN and sent from the UK; programmed (additional charge) but it got the remote back in the fight.

What I have on my hands now is the old fob with the cut key but no power; I've got a shell and a battery inbound and high hopes that soon I'll have 2 keys so I can promptly lose one.
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A/C has a funky mildewy smell when you first turn it on but dissipates quickly. No idea what's going on here. Maybe time for a cabin air filter.
Check the seal on the windshield trim and make sure it's flush with the glass. If not, water will intrude through the clean air opening/pollen filter, at least on the lr3. We had had windshield replaced earlier this year and the installer didn't bother to tell us 4 of the 8 clips that hold that trim down were broken and the leak there created a lot of problems for us
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Check the seal on the windshield trim and make sure it's flush with the glass. If not, water will intrude through the clean air opening/pollen filter, at least on the lr3. We had had windshield replaced earlier this year and the installer didn't bother to tell us 4 of the 8 clips that hold that trim down were broken and the leak there created a lot of problems for us
We had a similar leak/issue in the LR3. Everyone kept telling us it was the sunroof drains and I told them no way, I was clearing them myself. They pulled the trim at the A-pillar to roof meeting joint and the weld was broken... A bit of epoxy later and we're good to go.

They make chlorine dioxide gas "packets" to deodorize the interior of cars and RVs. It should knock any mildew smell out if it's inside the vehicle.
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