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LR3 opinions?

Hi guys,

Thinking about getting a 2005 LR3 and was wondering if anyone here can give me honest, real-life opinion. I have read a bunch of good and negative feedbacks. Also read about the fuel tank recall. I have had my fair share with the H3 problems, buying the first-year release, with all the difficulties finally ironed out. Would it be a wise choice? Not concerned about space/cosmetics. Looking more for info about mechanical/technical info. I am use to doing things myself but with all its electronic and anything more advance then SU carbs and an LT95 transmission, I am a little concerned. Any input would greatly be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Old April 4th, 2010, 03:21 PM
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The UK spec LR3's are great, I can even sell u a 2.7V6tdci if you like!
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I have driven one on road and liked the ride, but I have never owned one. I always remember what I read below and I will never own one because of it.

See posts #124-131

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The driver is a club member of the chicago land rover club and he posted it to our club site.

he was driving at 65mph on the highway when the front arm just failed , apperently tire dropping back into the wheel well tossed him into the center wall. I believe that force is what caused the side curtain deployment.

he did not roll or contact any other cars.

the forces of the accident also broke components in the rear suspension on the passenger side.

The reason I linked this is that it may be the tip of the iceburg, like back when the DII driveshafts started letting go and I want people to start inspecting these lower control arms.

The component apears to be a rolled collar that is welded into a stamped steel arm. that rolled collar has to have a weld joint in it that connects the two ends of the rolled piece. My gut feeling is this seam is what let go and maybe others are in the same condition? and ready to go.

If we as a community can find and prevent others from failing maybe we can prevent some accidents.

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I just got rid a 2006 HSE and I really liked it. It was my wifes car but we took it off road quite a bit, even took it to the national rally last year and it performed great.

Ours only had 17k on the clock but it didn't have any issues while we owned it.
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I have a 2005 SE with the cold package and HD package. Had it since new... I love it... I have had good luck with mine. The tank was recalled and never caused me any issues. The only issues I had were the tank, air compressor went under warranty and alighment goes out eating the OE tires. But I have Nitto's on it and have lasted 40k miles now and plenty left. I have 60k and it has been great. 2 cross country drives, many hunting and camping trips in it.

Let me know if you have any questions.
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David, thanks for the link. Will have to read up on that.

James, why did you sell it? How much did you get for it. The one I am looking at is a 2005 hse with about 60K. Not really sure what would be a fair asking price.

Mark, I have read many issues about the alignment. Did they ever told you what happened to yours? Also read about the brakes wearing out fast beause the truck is so heavy. Yours is right at about the same mileage as the one I am looking at. Would you buy one at that mileage for $21K given it's a 2005 HSE. Not really sure what the cold and HD package is.
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We have an 05 with 60k. It's my wifes daily driver.

Not to many problems with it.
Basic wear and tear items - tires, rotors, break pads, recharge ac, tie rods. Nothing that would make us dissapointed with it's dependability.
We really like the ride.

We will probably keep if for a while since we have extended warranty which we think is a smart move.
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I have one as well. It hasn't given me any problems until last week (55k). I did have to buy inner tie rods. I would make sure it has an extended warranty to be on the safe side. The service wasn't cheap.
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I took one in partial trade on the 130- drove the 130 to Co, and the LR3 back. No comparison obviously on the road, but the biggest surprise was on the trail (had to visit Black Bear directly from the dealer). It did amazing things, then rode like a limo for 2k miles. That is the caveat- your cake and eat it too, all in comfort. Another thing- the kids were much less spooked offroad in the LR3 d/t the lack of pitching to and fro. Extended warranty a definite I would think.
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Old April 5th, 2010, 09:01 AM
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I have a 05 as well... Its an amazing ride, and the 300 HP jag motor gets it! I towed my defender with it and was shocked at how effortless it was...

You will be very happy, as am I, when my wife lets me drive it.... HA!
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I have had a couple, great trucks, plenty of room. Nothing major broke but I can't imagine they are cheap to fix out of warranty. With all the "technology" a lot of items can't be addressed without dealer tools (test book). 05 was the first year in the states, they had some issues, the 06 might be a better bet but not bullet proof. You can also do better than 21K for a 05' 60k mile truck.

I know there are a couple V6 engines floating around out there without air suspension and terrain response from the factory...
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Old April 5th, 2010, 10:41 AM
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Forest- Here is what I know or think I know about the alignment. Someone may know more. The LR3's seem to get out of alignment for some reason. A couple of mechanics I knew in AZ told me it was the bushings and they replaced mine. But I have seen the issue on many. You can tell when the tops of the tire is tilted in. Causes the crappy goodyears that are the OEM to wear at around 15k miles. The alignement is about $150 to have redone, so I just watch it and have had it done twice in a little over 5 years with a good bit of off road in there and towing.

The brakes are going to wear, they are huge and the vehicle weighs a lot. So goes with the territory. My front ones lasted until 35k and back till 42k, so not bad in my opinion all things considered.

The options I have make the SE about the same as the HSE. The HSE has the 19inch wheels and the nav. I don't think anything else. I would say if you want to put off road tires on it dont' get the 19inch wheels. They only sell the GY Mud terrains from Europe I think for that size. I heard they were $300+ a tire. I don't care for the nav either.

I would buy mine again. I love it. My wife loves it too. I am not sure what they are selling for, but you should be able to get a good deal on them with the economy.

Let me know if you have more questions, happy to give my 1 cent...
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Alignment - It was an issue from the factory in '05, but I haven't seen cases of them going out of alignment by themselves. Once they are aligned they are good for a while, depending on your driving. Every car goes out of alignment over time from hitting pot holes, or in some cases off-roading. I wouldn't be concerned with the alignment "issue."

Brakes - 35k-42k is pretty good. City driving takes its tolls on t he brakes, but more than anything, it comes down to common sense. I see people wear through a set of brakes in 15k miles and others that last 40k. If you drive sensibly, leave room and aren't constantly riding the brakes, they will last just fine. If you drive aggressively and are always on the gas or brake, you will tear through a set of pads in no time. Remember, it's a 6000lb truck!

Compressor - The EAS Compressor had a fault in the early years. There was a TSB on it back in '06 and once the compressor was replaced or rebuilt the problem didn't return. IIRC, there is a faulty O-ring that needs to be replaced, otherwise it sets a fault in the suspension system and you lose the ability to adjust the height of the vehicle and to select Terrain Response Modes. I would expect this to have been addressed by now on a 60k '05, and you shouldn't have any problems with it now, but it's worth checking the service history.

Warranty - I highly recommend an Extended Warranty. I am a firm believer in them as costs add up quickly if something does go wrong. Additionally, most Warranty Companies will include Towing and Rental Cars if need be.

Tires - There are a number of tires available to fit the HSE wheel, including the Wrangler MT/R, which is what the G4 LR3's were fitted with.

Shoot me a PM with your phone number if you want to chat about LR3's. I know them pretty well.
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I took one in partial trade on the 130- drove the 130 to Co, and the LR3 back. No comparison obviously on the road, but the biggest surprise was on the trail (had to visit Black Bear directly from the dealer). It did amazing things, then rode like a limo for 2k miles. That is the caveat- your cake and eat it too, all in comfort. Another thing- the kids were much less spooked offroad in the LR3 d/t the lack of pitching to and fro. Extended warranty a definite I would think.
I wouldn't consider Black Bear a test for much of anything. I used to have to run tours over it.
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I own an 06 HSE7 with HD package and love it ( wife loves it even better , I can't use it *LOL* )

The only waorry you will have is the DAMN Battery, if that thing gets low, you'll get all kind of malfunctions, like Air Supension Inop, bla bla bla ,an easy fix on a worried moment.

and 05 HSE7 with 60k is well priced at 20-21 Retail.

Towing with it is like you do not have the trailer behind ( and if trailer is braked, even better ).
Putting a brake controller is a 2 seconds job ( with a ford wiring )

Only negative ( for me at least ) I have no confidence in the tow hitch - same as RR sport
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Sorry for the delayed responce....We sold it because we just didn't use since we are out of country most of the time..hence the low miles. It sold for $30
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Thanks everyone for the info. Test drove the 2005, me likey. Also went to the local dealer to look at a newer "used" model. It was already spoken for though. It is me or is the dealer just not very friendly? Sure I wore shorts and a T-shirt which says "I love hot moms" but the guy treated me like I was some poorly educated bum. I guess next time I'll wear a shirt and tie. Anyway, thanks for all the input and info.
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Thanks everyone for the info. Test drove the 2005, me likey. Also went to the local dealer to look at a newer "used" model. It was already spoken for though. It is me or is the dealer just not very friendly? Sure I wore shorts and a T-shirt which says "I love hot moms" but they guy treated me like I was some poorly educated bum. I guess next time I'll wear a shirt and tie. Anyway, thanks for all the input and info.
Happy to hear!

As for the dealer sorry to hear about your experience. Not all LR dealers are like that. My local one here is a joke, I travel 2+ hours to buy from another dealer, their loss.. I don't know how far from Ft. Lauderdale you are but Martin (mpodgorski) on the forum works there and I am sure he can take care of you.

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My sister has one and loves it............She looked at a ton of SUVs before getting this one. She needed something for the kids, and something that had the third row option. She has a 1998 Disco since new and decided to keep it as a second car. I am sure she was a little bias with her decision to stick with the Marque.

That said, She leased the car. Her lease is coming due. She is planning to either buy this one, or get another LR3. That seems to be good review of the car - because this would be her time to get out if she did not like it.......

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