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Old April 19th, 2013, 12:05 AM
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LR3 incognito brake controller?

Anyone have any clever ideas for mounting a brake controller on an LR3?
I bought a can-am commander and with its supporting trailer is just a touch over the unbraked trailer recommendation. So I got the trailer with brakes. I already had the oem trailer light/brake harness installed. I bought a tekonsha p3 controller and adapter, but wanted to see what people have done to mount it.

I don't want to maul the cig tray, I prefer to do a standard mount or a clever mount somewhere in the drivers footwell. But I thought I'd ask what others have done to see if it inspires me.

Thanks for the info guys!

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Old April 19th, 2013, 12:11 AM
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Old April 19th, 2013, 12:22 AM
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I bought this... Nothing to mount. Just need a power plug...

http://www.amazon.com/Tekonsha-90250...ake+controller
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Old April 19th, 2013, 12:58 AM
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Could have bought a trailer with surge brakes...would have been much easier.

Just make sure you mount it where it it easy to manually activate if you get sway...
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Old April 19th, 2013, 01:13 AM
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No worries man. Good point.
It was a custom build by echo trailers in UT. I Don't know for sure, but I think it's just regular old trailer brakes...I pick the trailer up next week. I requested "trailer" brakes, so I assume they are just standard electric brakes . The dealer asked me the, uhh are you sure you want trailer brakes question and I said yep. Like you said its pretty light.... He didn't think I needed it either, but I thought why not. I have some future plans that will require real braking so I thought so get ready for it.

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Old April 19th, 2013, 01:15 AM
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No worries man. Good point.
It was a custom build by echo trailers in UT. I Don't know for sure, but I think it's just regular old trailer brakes...I pick the trailer up next week. I requested "trailer" brakes, so I assume they are just standard electric brakes . The dealer asked me the, uhh are you sure you want trailer brakes question and I said yep. Like you said its pretty light.... He didn't think I needed it either, but I thought why not. I have some future plans that will require real braking so I thought so get ready for it.

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Just ask if they are surge or electric....if they are surge...no controller required.

Towed my 24ft boat on a dual axel trailer with surge and my old Range Rover on a car trailer with surge...never had issues...
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Old April 19th, 2013, 10:17 AM
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This really is my #1 beef with the LR3 in general, the dash is so busy that there really is no place to put anything. If you didn't need to get to the manual control I would say pull the center console and install it underneath there, I have stuffed lots of electronics there in the past.

Another possible location is the cover that snaps on to the front of the driver's seat, it's removable to get to the nav computer, and you could run the wiring either down the door trim or under the center console. Mostly out of the way, and you could still reach down and hit the switch if you needed to.
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My UK experience was all with surge brakes. Only discovered electric brakes in the US but provision for electric brake controller should have been made.
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I have mine in the lower cowl above the pedals, I can reach it in case of need ( manual operation of the trailer brakes )

The D3 comes with a plug ( right cowl on tunnel ) where you plug a Ford connector ( for the P3 at least )

Could take pics tonight if needed
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Old April 19th, 2013, 01:32 PM
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Yeah should have added that... The plug is there waiting to be used, it makes it a plug and play install.
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So they are full on real trailer brakes. Pulled pretty good on the way home. Interested to see how it does with the Utv on there. Used a lot more gas on the way back compared to going to get it. That gate is kind of like a sail lol.

Thanks for the suggestions fellas. I will dig around and see what makes sense and post the installed controller.
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So they are full on real trailer brakes. Pulled pretty good on the way home. Interested to see how it does with the Utv on there. Used a lot more gas on the way back compared to going to get it. That gate is kind of like a sail lol.

Thanks for the suggestions fellas. I will dig around and see what makes sense and post the installed controller.
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All completely uneventful and in one of more occasion @ 80mph, NOW @ that speed with the UTV/Quads, I was getting 10-11mph unless I was on a very flat road then 13-14

You notice the heavy weight uphill of course and in highspeed exit ramps , otherwise, only if you look in the mirror
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Old April 20th, 2013, 07:51 PM
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Gustavo,
That's cool man, thanks for the info! Good hear hear it pulls lots of stuff!
It's a bit more labored, but not dogging when pulling this getup. More shifting of gears, but I think I will use that command shift more. Being at 5500ft+ all the time the hills do drop ya down pretty quick. I have yet to get below 3500ft, I bet the LR3 at sea level is pretty sweet.
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Hows that Commander treating you? Was the X worth the upgrade over the XT?

Anxious to see how the LR3 pulls the 90 in the heat for 1200 miles this summer...
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I towed my 90 to Moab with my lr3 a few times and it was great!! I used to just throw the brake controller in the cup holder, then when it wasn't in use I threw it in the drivers door pocket. Just a thought.
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Hows that Commander treating you? Was the X worth the upgrade over the XT?

Anxious to see how the LR3 pulls the 90 in the heat for 1200 miles this summer...
I think the fox shocks really make a difference. And as the dealer pointed out you can add the winch for less than you can buy the shocks for. The dealer has a little dirt lot next to his place and we got to test just about every model and even some cats. In the end I liked the x the best. i think the fox shocks help with the big hits. I've put abut 100 miles on it so far and really like it it's crazy how much faster you go on the dirt compared to a defender or jeep. Bird hunting this year will be pretty cool.

1200 miles whoa ! That's a good haul.

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I towed my 90 to Moab with my lr3 a few times and it was great!! I used to just throw the brake controller in the cup holder, then when it wasn't in use I threw it in the drivers door pocket. Just a thought.
Nice!
Your garage is awesome by the way. I should swing by with some beers next time I'm down your way.
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Thanks Peter! Jealous when you talk about ATVing, birding, etc! Cant wait to move back west.
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