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Old January 27th, 2014, 06:06 PM
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Anyone running the Atlantic British coil conversion on their LR3?
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Old January 27th, 2014, 06:09 PM
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there is a four page discussion on expedition portal on this exact topic. I think people really still prefer the air-suspension over the coil conversions.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 06:09 PM
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Anyone running the Atlantic British coil conversion on their LR3?
Looking for feedback...

Cheers...
Big thread on it on expo: http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...d.php?t=120976
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Old January 27th, 2014, 09:27 PM
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there is a four page discussion on expedition portal on this exact topic. I think people really still prefer the air-suspension over the coil conversions.
I'm the minority...
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Old January 27th, 2014, 09:37 PM
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I'm the minority...
I may be with you one day, I look at it as a viable way to reduce variables in that platform. Are there downsides-without a doubt-but it does have some upsides too that I think got discounted in that discussion as the dog pile began.
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I'm the minority...

Have you towed with the Lr3 post coil conversion?

I will adventure to say that will make you miss the EAS
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Old January 27th, 2014, 10:11 PM
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Why on earth would anyone ditch air suspension on an LR3? If you replace the compressor you will likely not have many other problems with the system. If you're really anal, you could replace the height sensors. I've only driven an 03+ Range Rover with a coil conversion, and it rode like shit.

If you do end up doing a coil conversion, please don't cut the air lines so that when you, or the next owner, goes to convert it back , they don't have to replace the lines.
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Old January 28th, 2014, 08:58 AM
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Have you towed with the Lr3 post coil conversion?

I will adventure to say that will make you miss the EAS
Odds are I will never tow anything with the 3.
This is strictly a family hauler, that's it.

I'm on the fence about the conversion. Yes, I would be deleting a major feature but on the same token, I would not have to worry about eas problems down the road.

Just running numbers from AB:
Four air springs are approx $1400
Air comp is about $800

The coil conversion is approx $1000

Only two places near me have the s/w to work on eas.

With coils, I'm more independent.

I'm no expert on LR3's my any means. I've owned it since last June. I'm sure there are many here knowing more than I.

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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:06 AM
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I haven't owned an air suspension vehicle yet. I would personally think that the air suspension would be a major factor in motivating me to buy one of these high end luxury SUVs like an LR3 or LR4. Removing it seems goofy. I understand you want something that you don't have to take to get fixed or deal with multiple faults, but if cost of ownership/ease of repairs are your concern, why not just get a different vehicle? Plenty of other choices that are of equal size and capability without as much maintenance.
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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:48 AM
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I think there is a pretty good rationale laid out in the Expo thread from the start, along with actual feedback on the coil conversion's ride handling and the like.

The air suspension is nice, and reliable in relative LR terms for sure-but at some point the coil option does have viable utility depending on application of the vehicle, how much it's worth at the time, etc.

Put another way-there are lots of D3's running around the ROW in austere environments that aren't running air suspension...over time as their price point of LR3's comes down in the US but the cost to fix some or all of the suspension related things switching over may make sense and the AB option is worth discussing vice just dismissing.
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A little research into the bypass systems that allow you to manually reinflate the bags in case of a failure might be worthwhile. That way you retain the legitimate benefits of the EAS system while allowing yourself a workaround until you get to a place where you can more holistically fix the system.
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Old January 28th, 2014, 10:53 AM
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A little research into the bypass systems that allow you to manually reinflate the bags in case of a failure might be worthwhile. That way you retain the legitimate benefits of the EAS system while allowing yourself a workaround until you get to a place where you can more holistically fix the system.
A few ways to do that that, but doesn't necessarily make the coil conversion any less appropriate, again depending on application and requirements.

I'm not saying its appropriate for everyone-but I do think that it provides a reasonable solution for some with costs/benefits (kinda like keeping an aging EAS has costs/benefits...)
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Old January 28th, 2014, 10:59 AM
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It's been discussed on the Expedition Portal thread but I think the coil conversion hampers off road ability in anything besides light wheeling. The simulated solid axle function provided by the EAS is a feature that makes the LR3/4 better than your average IFS/IRS vehicle IMO
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A little research into the bypass systems that allow you to manually reinflate the bags in case of a failure might be worthwhile. That way you retain the legitimate benefits of the EAS system while allowing yourself a workaround until you get to a place where you can more holistically fix the system.

Every Airbag system can be manually bypassed and inflated ( P38-RRS ), the point of an LR3 being such a great overall vehicle ( Family , grocery getter, off road , towing ) has indeed to do with the EAS

I can tell you towing 7500 lbs with the coils will not be my choice on that vehicle, yet, I bought an LR3 with that option in mind.( towing )

I have seen LR3 towing ( not mine ) right to the capacity ( if not more ) ( with the frame mounted hitch instead of the LR one )

The airbags can be had pretty reasonably from ARnott.

Maybe I am bias.

The same was with the RR, everyone did not want to deal with the Front Bag issues, and went coil, well they did not perform the same towing and on snow covered roads
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Odds are I will never tow anything with the 3.
This is strictly a family hauler, that's it.

I'm on the fence about the conversion. Yes, I would be deleting a major feature but on the same token, I would not have to worry about eas problems down the road.

Just running numbers from AB:
Four air springs are approx $1400
Air comp is about $800

The coil conversion is approx $1000

Only two places near me have the s/w to work on eas.

With coils, I'm more independent.

I'm no expert on LR3's my any means. I've owned it since last June. I'm sure there are many here knowing more than I.

Cheers...

I think I've replaced maybe two or three air springs on LR3/RRS since I've worked at the dealership since 2007.

You don't have to replace the compressor, you can get the rebuild kit for probably under $100.

If you want to not worry about it, just replace or rebuild the compressor now.
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Old January 28th, 2014, 11:55 AM
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Every Airbag system can be manually bypassed and inflated ( P38-RRS ), the point of an LR3 being such a great overall vehicle ( Family , grocery getter, off road , towing ) has indeed to do with the EAS

I can tell you towing 7500 lbs with the coils will not be my choice on that vehicle, yet, I bought an LR3 with that option in mind.( towing )

I have seen LR3 towing ( not mine ) right to the capacity ( if not more ) ( with the frame mounted hitch instead of the LR one )

The airbags can be had pretty reasonably from ARnott.

Maybe I am bias.

The same was with the RR, everyone did not want to deal with the Front Bag issues, and went coil, well they did not perform the same towing and on snow covered roads
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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:03 PM
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I think I've replaced maybe two or three air springs on LR3/RRS since I've worked at the dealership since 2007.

You don't have to replace the compressor, you can get the rebuild kit for probably under $100.

If you want to not worry about it, just replace or rebuild the compressor now.
Who offers rebuild kits for the air compressors?
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Who offers rebuild kits for the air compressors?
Land Rover.

If you want one, let me know, I work at a dealership. I've probably installed 100 of them. Its basically just a new dryer and a new spring inside of the compressor. I would also recommend replacing the compressor relay. AB sells the dryer, but I couldn't find the other pieces to the kit. I'm pretty sure our price at the dealer is lower than AB, but I'm not sure.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/VUB504700G.cfm
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I installed a conversion on a customers LR3, It rode like crap,very bouncy and rough. Would not recommend it.
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