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Old September 21st, 2010, 04:10 PM
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Learned the hard way, don't buy a fancy new car....

Wife and I just bought a new Caddy CTS wagon.
Leather.
Air conditioning.
On-star.
rear entertainment.
Heated seats.
cruise control.
...
Feature after feature after feature.

Then I get back in the D-90, with it's "features" list.
Gas pedal
Brakes
Windows
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I'm really finding myself wanting amenities all of a sudden. Please save me, before I try and find somebody who would trade my Defender for an Unlimited Rubicon!

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Old September 21st, 2010, 04:27 PM
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It's funny you say this, because I find the opposite. All the features are nice, but I love the simplicity of my D90 and then even more simple series. When I do drive my other cars I appreciate them more as well for the features they do have.

I say don't drive the D90 for a few days and then go drive it - I bet all those foolish thoughts will be gone. Unless it doesn't start...
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Old September 21st, 2010, 04:43 PM
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I say don't drive the D90 for a few days and then go drive it - I bet all those foolish thoughts will be gone. Unless it doesn't start...
Yeah, the "Fix it" list is definitely contributing to my feelings.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 05:30 PM
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It's funny you say this, because I find the opposite. All the features are nice, but I love the simplicity of my D90 and then even more simple series. When I do drive my other cars I appreciate them more as well for the features they do have.

I say don't drive the D90 for a few days and then go drive it - I bet all those foolish thoughts will be gone. Unless it doesn't start...
Cabell and I were playing with a ww2 jeep last weekend. Single wiper (vacuum operated) small heater the size of a coffee can and possibly the most spartan dash on the planet. Ran like a top. Shipping it to the UK oddly enough.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 05:58 PM
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I am like cgalpin. I used to get in shouting matches with the navigation systems in the new range rovers we had (I never figured out how to disable them) and cursed the BMW I had where IDrive (which included the HVAC) would not work below freezing.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 06:30 PM
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I found driving a Series II 88" everyday for ten years made it easy for me. Now I get in my Defender and it feels like the lap of luxury. Heat? Don't mind if I do! Listen to the radio? Love to!
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:14 PM
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That shit is funny!
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:20 PM
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That shit is funny!
LOL and I'm only batting 50% on that right now.....
Never did get the heater core done this summer, D'OH!
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Old September 21st, 2010, 09:43 PM
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Please save me, before I try and find somebody who would trade my Defender for an Unlimited Rubicon!
Hey......I resemble that remark.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 12:12 AM
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Those CTS Wagons are very cool looking. I like that the CTS is competitive with the German makes. Our Suburban has those same features but here's how I look at them:

Leather - Would be nice in the 90 but I'd be more stressed snotting it up
Air Conditioning - Even with the hot ass summer we had the top off and the vents open were fine for me.
On-star - Don't even use it on the 'burban
Rear Entertainment - Top off driving gives a lot of entertainment even for the kids in the back seats
Heated Seats - Our 'burban has Cooled seats as well - I have to admit I'd like both options for the 90.
Cruise Control - bah - last trip from Jersey to VT I couldn't even set the cruise. Not even in Western MA and VT - seems to me cruise isn't worth it in the northeast over 70 mph.

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Power Seats - with all the adjusments of them I never seem to get them comfortable. Corbeau all the way back fits great.
Power Windows - 90 = no windows so doesn't matter
Nav - Old school maps are easier for me - I keep one underneath the pass seat. I pull out the Garmin when I need to "see" where I'm going
Radio - The 2nd thing that I'd like to have from the 'burban. Although the Chevy doesn't have an iPod connection so I guess it equals out.
Cup Holders - The Tuffy's hold my Sigg bottles better and the bigger Nalgene bottles fit in between the Tuffy and the transfer case lever. They end up bouncing all over the 'burban.
Trip Computer - With a few more gauges and the Garmin I think I'd come close to what the Chevy has for info.

Like charles and evil - I love the simplicity of the 90. I think it's a tragedy that modern cars are so "dummed" down. For me, I think my old '84 Saab 900 Turbo had the best layout and features.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 12:49 AM
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Will, what made you go from a d90 to a rubicon? Which do you like better? I have a TJ and a 90, and can't seem to let either one go.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 07:45 PM
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Will, what made you go from a d90 to a rubicon? Which do you like better? I have a TJ and a 90, and can't seem to let either one go.

Same reason as anyone else........kids! I sold my last 90 a few months after my 1st daughter was born and supplemented my rover "habit" with a TReK Disco for a couple of years. But, I always missed having a soft top. I had an '83 CJ-7 before I got my first Defender. When the 4-door Jeeps debuted in late '06, in an odd twist of fate, I happened to be in Lake Tahoe the same week they were doing the press launch for them on the Rubicon Trail. ( see thread here, http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ead.php?t=9283 )

The 4-door Jeep was the answer to my problem, not that I hadn't considered alternatives. A good friend of mine was the one who came up with the idea for ECR's Beach Runner 110, but the time and expense of a project like that just hasn't been in the cards for me......yet.

That being said, asking which one I like better would be like asking me which of my children I love more. Obviously, I haven't kicked the rover "habit". I like them both, but for different reasons. One thing is for sure though, they are both very capable trucks.
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 09:01 AM
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Guess that would make you my "political advisor".
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