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Old November 12th, 2008, 10:09 AM
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hi all,

i am after a new/newer laptop for my personal use.
* has to be small/thin - small screen is fine (i got good eye sight)
* has to be able to get itunes (does that mean i have to get an apple - or i suppose i can download itunes)
* has to have a cd burner
* has to have a lot of memory for songs (my ipod has 7800 songs)
* want it to be fairly quick
* i will also download photos

* black case would be cool (but not a must)
* something i can drop at least 5 times before something breaks)
* i would love to travel with it

other than that im not really picky. im not a computer nerd per any stretch of the imagination. but, know a little about them.

thanks.!!
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Old November 12th, 2008, 10:40 AM
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Either a PC or an Apple will fulfill all your needs... iTunes can be put on either

You have to decide how much you wan to spend, and if you want PC or Apple to really gauge what you should get..

I have a Sony Vaio T150 for my laptop... 10.6" screen, about 2lbs, etc.. It's an old model, so they have updates, so you can check Sony T-Series (http://b2b.sony.com/Solutions/subcat...books/t-series)

You could also look into a 13" mac book (http://www.apple.com/macbook/)

Apples are going to be more expensive all together, but easier to use for the basics..

As for something you can drop a few times... only thing that fits that bill is the Panasonic Toughbook
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MacBook all the way. They are more expensive, but worth it.
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Old November 12th, 2008, 11:09 AM
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MacBook all the way. They are more expensive, but worth it.
I 2nd that BIG TIME !!! And get a good travel case like a Pelican that can be dropped with no ill effect. I am a pilot and have taken my iBook (older MacBook) everywhere with me, and I mean everywhere from the sand dunes of Morocco to the arctic circle and it has never let me down.

http://www.pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=1080

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Old November 12th, 2008, 11:22 AM
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maybe

Acer makes a quite small and functional little Laptop, not expensive at all. Range from 400.00 to 800.00 depending on how much beef you need.
I carry that one in the car at all times to check email attachment that I can't view very good on the iPhone.

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http://acer.com/products/notebook/as2420.htm





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hi all,

i am after a new/newer laptop for my personal use.
* has to be small/thin - small screen is fine (i got good eye sight)
* has to be able to get itunes (does that mean i have to get an apple - or i suppose i can download itunes)
* has to have a cd burner
* has to have a lot of memory for songs (my ipod has 7800 songs)
* want it to be fairly quick
* i will also download photos

* black case would be cool (but not a must)
* something i can drop at least 5 times before something breaks)
* i would love to travel with it

other than that im not really picky. im not a computer nerd per any stretch of the imagination. but, know a little about them.

thanks.!!
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Old November 12th, 2008, 11:31 AM
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you can get a second hand Macbook for cheap now. I have seen them go for $750 now. 13 inch screen. 1-2gb ram and a good HD. And a camera so you can talk to your kids or parents!

there are also nice PCs on the market too though I haven't looked in a while, I can't recommend any.
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im not opposed to second hand.... im barely going to use this thing, more for convenience when i travel for email and music. but would really like a small one. i love the old sonys that were very small, but again i also want a cd burner.
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Old November 12th, 2008, 12:11 PM
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Thinkpad all the way. I've carried them to every corner of the world. Reasonable too. I have an ultra small and thin A model right now. It is 4 years old and I don't want to part with it. Utterly bulletproof.
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Old November 12th, 2008, 12:17 PM
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Thinkpad all the way. I've carried them to every corner of the world. Reasonable too. I have an ultra small and thin A model right now. It is 4 years old and I don't want to part with it. Utterly bulletproof.
x2. It's the only thing that can come even remotely close to your drop requirement. They're solid as a rock and even have spill resistant keyboards . If you know you're going to be treating it somewhat roughly don't even consider a mac.

If you're getting Vista please get atleast 2gb of ram so we don't have to hear you complain about it being slow . If you can swing it go with 4gb.

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/c...8E19B36EC665A7

The X series seems to be what you're after.
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If you're getting Vista please get atleast 2gb of ram so we don't have to hear you complain about it being slow . If you can swing it go with 4gb..
Unless you go with vista-64 (even then?), stop at 3GB or you'll regret paying that much for only 3.5GB.
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im not opposed to second hand.... im barely going to use this thing, more for convenience when i travel for email and music. but would really like a small one. i love the old sonys that were very small, but again i also want a cd burner.
as i mentioned above, the sony t150 i have, which is a few years old now is awesome... 10.6" screen, 2.something pounds.. dvd burner, great widescreen for dvds ... look up like maybe the sony t350 on ebay and see how cheap they are going for now.
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* something i can drop at least 5 times before something breaks)
Toshibas are really strong and cheap. But since my "strong" experience is a few years old, that might have changed. I have a 10-year old Toshiba that just does not want to die (well.... The hard drive is on it's way out, but can't blame it really..... ;-) ).

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BTW, based on what you described, I'd get one of those:
http://promos.asus.com/US/website/Sp...Computing.html
Last I checked (back in June), the newest model was ~400 euros in EMEA, so likely to be the same price in USD here and really nice (and runs Windows something => iTune would run on it).
Now... Might need to buy an external (USB) CD burner ($100 ?).
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Old November 12th, 2008, 01:22 PM
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Unless you go with vista-64 (even then?), stop at 3GB or you'll regret paying that much for only 3.5GB.
Memory is pretty cheap at the moment and 32bit will recognize 4gb.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

Especially useful is your video card uses shared memory.
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Well.... Looks like that EEE (2GB RAM 160GB disk) is actually ~$800 here comes with Vista Home Premium. Maybe I don't remember right..... or was looking at a different model (maybe that Windows XP model with 1GB of RAM?).

BTW, external/usb CD burners are as expensive as DVD burners, so.... $60 http://www.dealtime.com/xPO-Hewlett-...x-DVDR-Read-8x
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x2. It's the only thing that can come even remotely close to your drop requirement. They're solid as a rock and even have spill resistant keyboards . If you know you're going to be treating it somewhat roughly don't even consider a mac.
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Memory is pretty cheap at the moment and 32bit will recognize 4gb.
From the microsoft article you posted a link to:
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If a computer has many installed devices, the available memory may be reduced to 3 GB or less. However, the maximum memory available in 32-bit versions of Windows Vista is typically 3.12 GB.
So, yes it will "detect" 4GB of RAM (so will Windows XP) but will not use all since some of that memory addressing space is used for other purpose (Video adaptor is one of them).

I also love the "Workaround" section that states:
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For Windows Vista to use all 4 GB of memory on a computer that has 4 GB of memory installed, the computer must meet the following requirements:
  1. ... blabla ... Hardware has to support 64-bit stuff
  2. An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used.
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So, yes it will "detect" 4GB of RAM (so will Windows XP) but will not use all since some of that memory addressing space is used for other purpose (Video adaptor is one of them).
That's kind've the point. So those shared resources don't eat into your program memory. But it depends on your chipset and other things obviously.

But it doesn't really matter as Keith said himself he isn't a computer nerd and probably wouldn't know the difference anyway
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i dont and wont know the difference. i want easy to use and play music and check email (so i guess a wire-less card as well.)

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do you think this is over kill:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...ber=VGNZ540EBB
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I second the EEE if you want to go small and cheap, else a macbook
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im not too worried about price. (take that the right way)
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