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Old May 18th, 2015, 10:04 AM
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Jeep to build new Grand Wagoneer to rival Range Rover

Thought some might find this article interesting (see link below). Sergio Marchionne and Jeep intend for the new Grand Wagoneer model to rival the Range Rover.

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It will be interesting to see how they execute the 'Grand Wagoneer', but I doubt they'll even come close. But then again, I'm biased...
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I think it's a bad idea. I don't think the perception of the Jeep brand will support a premium priced item like this. I struggle as is with the diesel Jeep grand Cherokee. I would love to get a diesel GC as the family car but I priced it out and it's a 50 grand truck because the Overland trim is lowest trim you can get with that engine. 50 grand and at the end of the day you have a Jeep? I mean that's new x3, tourag, x5, q5 money.

You really think anyone is going to lay out 90-100 grand for a Jeep (assuming that's the price point they will probably go for since a Range is 110-130).

Then again Porsche made a success out of the Cayenne so who knows.
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You really think anyone is going to lay out 90-100 grand for a Jeep (assuming that's the price point they will probably go for since a Range is 110-130).
I'm not necessarily arguing your point, as I fully understand your perspective, but for example, AEV equipped Wranglers are regularly fetching in that price range ($80K-100K)......and it's a Wrangler. Even a new loaded 4-door Rubicon runs near $50K or better these days.
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Totally agree with you but I feel like anyone looking for those vehicles is more of a unique buyer that has more the approach of "it's a toy" and is somewhat exempt from the norm- especially with AEV.
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considering what soccer moms are now shelling out for loaded yukons anything is possible. Just picked up my kids and counted no less than 6 2015 Denalis...
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Yes i was driving the 110...happens to be the kids favorite.
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I'll say this about the current Grand Cherokee: it's the best driving SUV I've been in... which is many (although no Range Rovers since the P38s). We leased one for my wife when they first came out. Something outrageously low, like $300/mo with $1500 down (point of comparison, when I sold Land Rovers and leased a Discovery through LRNA's employee lease deal, it was $2500 down and $350/mo - almost 20 years ago!).

The driveline was seamless, the switches satisfyingly heavy, the trim was of high quality. And it had a tighter turning radius than a Volvo 240.

But what blew me away was the technology behind the terrain knob. A friend offered to let my family use her hidden away spring-fed pond, which was on the other side of a 100 acre cow pasture. In late spring, in Vermont, those fields are pretty much in the condition that apparently shut down this years Overland Expo ( Land Rover Cancels Off-Road Demo Because 'It's Too Muddy' ). At any rate, on stock all seasons, I set it to "low range" and "mud" and set across that field at idle. Although it made a hell of a racket - mostly from the ABS system - it slogged right on through without any drama...

Yes, $50k is a lot of scratch for anything - but have you priced out the new F150?? Yikes!

Jeep will have no trouble selling a $100k competitor to the Range Rover, if only because they can satisfy that "formula" we spoke about in another thread: instant gratification. Last I knew from 2014, there was no such thing as a Range Rover "for inventory," as they were sold out with at least a 6-month backlog.
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I hope Jeep does it. That article doesn't say much.

I'm a long time Range Rover fan until the latest release. I don't know why the new one costs $120K. It's just a jacked up sedan. So I bought a G Wagon instead.
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A friend of mine recently got the Grand Chreokee SRT. It looks pretty sick in person with the stance and Brembo's sticking thru the wheels. He said it's FAST. At a 4.8 0-60 and mid 13 1/4 mile I bet it is.

Another thing about the GC is they already have a diesel option.

I would be really interested in the maintenance costs of a new RR vs a GC. I love my wife's L322 but service stuff is a killer - one example: it goes thru brakes every 30k miles and a dealer cost of $1k each end.
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Don for the love of god don't get your brakes and service done at the dealer! of course its going to be a killer.
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I hope Jeep does it. That article doesn't say much.

I'm a long time Range Rover fan until the latest release. I don't know why the new one costs $120K. It's just a jacked up sedan. So I bought a G Wagon instead.

For what??? $119k????? With similar options delivery tax etc????
They're basically the same price if you compare range supercharged to amg. Or base to base.
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Don for the love of god don't get your brakes and service done at the dealer! of course its going to be a killer.
Haha - nope - I didn't. I bring it there from time to time as I can get a loaner and it's easier to have a vehicle.

A local euro garage do the brakes last time (was still $600 iirc). I think my Suburban at the dealer is under $400 per axle.
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