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Old December 14th, 2009, 08:53 PM
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It took 2 months...

It took 2 months...before i got enough nerve to drop the D90 in mud! I learned a few things like;

  1. Wasnt just mud - Ice is like cement
  2. My Tires are crap - Interco Trxus MT 285/75/16 (Thinking of getting GEOlanders)
  3. For some reason i wasnt locking up in the rear 100% of the time (Any input would help - Detroit Locker)
  4. takes more than washing the truck twice to get all the mud off, uggg.
I made it about 80% through the PIT, but i think the ice blocks built up underneath and stopped me.

I must go back and avenge the mud and ice blocks!
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Old December 14th, 2009, 08:58 PM
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Congrats on getting her dirty. It's addicting.. cleaning the mud off is never fun nor is it done in one wash... enjoy !
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Old December 14th, 2009, 09:32 PM
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Congrats on getting her dirty... A sprinkler under the truck for 30 minutes helps.
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Old December 14th, 2009, 09:51 PM
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Awesome! Good to see you working that old horse. It will now be muddy all the time and you will think... was my truck yellow at one time?
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Old December 15th, 2009, 07:31 AM
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Mom voice on: "I'm always so proud when they go out for the first time".

Welcome to the sickness!
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Old December 15th, 2009, 08:12 AM
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Too much power-to-wait ratio. That is, you tried to power through a finesse situation. Nothing wrong with the tires, the equipment between the ears is what needs tuning. Practice. Part of the problem is that you dove in using the same line everyone else uses. Try going one side or the other of the deep ruts. The tires you have probably didn't go deep enough to find the bottom, especially if ice is damming up under the front. Then you only have rear wheel drive and those were likely very lightly loaded so no motion forward, even with the diff locked. Larger trucks with taller tires tend to make deep mud like this difficult for smaller tires. Glad to see you enjoying the truck...that's why they are so well loved.
And please don't send any more pictures of you being pulled out by a Chevy. I recommend getting a high lift jack and do some self recovery drills with it. A tree strap and some ground stakes too. When you are good with those, a mud hole won't seem like such a big deal. Getting out of a stuck is half the fun.
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Old December 15th, 2009, 08:43 AM
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Wasnt just mud - Ice is like cement.
Ice will do as much damage as rocks be careful when bouncing into a frozen hole, ask me how i know.
My Tires are crap - Interco Trxus MT 285/75/16 (Thinking of getting GEOlanders)
Heard the tires worked well if you where damed up then no tire would have worked I had the Geolanders and liked them.

For some reason i wasnt locking up in the rear 100% of the time (Any input would help - Detroit Locker)
I think The detroit needs to spool up

takes more than washing the truck twice to get all the mud off, uggg
Part of the fun for me is washing the truck and seeing how much mud runs down the drive.

The more you wheel the better you and the truck will perform

congrats
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Old December 17th, 2009, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KKilo23
Congrats on getting her dirty. It's addicting.. cleaning the mud off is never fun nor is it done in one wash... enjoy !
Thanks, Very Addictive! more so than my Starbucks Fix!

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Congrats on getting her dirty... A sprinkler under the truck for 30 minutes helps.
Yes, great idea...

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Awesome! Good to see you working that old horse. It will now be muddy all the time and you will think... was my truck yellow at one time?
I kept the mud on for 2 days a drove around like i was a tough guy in the big city...

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Ha, Thanks.

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Too much power-to-wait ratio. That is, you tried to power through a finesse situation. Nothing wrong with the tires, the equipment between the ears is what needs tuning. Practice. Part of the problem is that you dove in using the same line everyone else uses. Try going one side or the other of the deep ruts. The tires you have probably didn't go deep enough to find the bottom, especially if ice is damming up under the front. Then you only have rear wheel drive and those were likely very lightly loaded so no motion forward, even with the diff locked. Larger trucks with taller tires tend to make deep mud like this difficult for smaller tires. Glad to see you enjoying the truck...that's why they are so well loved.
And please don't send any more pictures of you being pulled out by a Chevy. I recommend getting a high lift jack and do some self recovery drills with it. A tree strap and some ground stakes too. When you are good with those, a mud hole won't seem like such a big deal. Getting out of a stuck is half the fun.
Great advise thanks, the tires were more of a problem on the tree stumps and rocks when we hit the trail...

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Wasnt just mud - Ice is like cement.
Ice will do as much damage as rocks be careful when bouncing into a frozen hole, ask me how i know.
My Tires are crap - Interco Trxus MT 285/75/16 (Thinking of getting GEOlanders)
Heard the tires worked well if you where damed up then no tire would have worked I had the Geolanders and liked them.

For some reason i wasnt locking up in the rear 100% of the time (Any input would help - Detroit Locker)
I think The detroit needs to spool up

takes more than washing the truck twice to get all the mud off, uggg
Part of the fun for me is washing the truck and seeing how much mud runs down the drive.

The more you wheel the better you and the truck will perform

congrats
Thanks for the detailed reply, yeah the ice was a bit much...i was amazed to seee so many parts from trucks sitting on or next to the trail. Next time i will try to be more technical. Ha.
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Old December 17th, 2009, 01:45 PM
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takes more than washing the truck twice to get all the mud off, uggg.
Tim, one hour of driving in Vancouver should wash all the mud off with the amount of rain you get out there. But seriously, the truck looks great with the black wing tops. Watch out for the ice. It's stronger that stainless brake line connections and can get in there to screw up your day. That and you don't know what else is buried in the mud.

Have you taken it up to Sunrise Lake yet? The V-rock would be a perfect test for the suspension, lockers, and your nerve. You almost can't tip it over but your heart will be pounding on the way down.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 10:48 PM
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If your anal like i am about keeping it clean after use, get about 3 cans of PAM and spray it everywhere prior to a mud feast. Most of the mud wont stick and what does will wash off easy...
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Old December 18th, 2009, 11:01 PM
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If your anal like i am about keeping it clean after use, get about 3 cans of PAM and spray it everywhere prior to a mud feast. Most of the mud wont stick and what does will wash off easy...
The mud is the fun part, why would you want to remove it so quick, a pressure washer gets it rights off. I can understand if your talking about the underside though.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 01:10 AM
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Tim, one hour of driving in Vancouver should wash all the mud off with the amount of rain you get out there. But seriously, the truck looks great with the black wing tops. Watch out for the ice. It's stronger that stainless brake line connections and can get in there to screw up your day. That and you don't know what else is buried in the mud.

Have you taken it up to Sunrise Lake yet? The V-rock would be a perfect test for the suspension, lockers, and your nerve. You almost can't tip it over but your heart will be pounding on the way down.
Haha, Yes it rains here a lot...Had a great time but i think i will practise a bit more before i tackle Sunrise Lake in the winter! I found some youtube video's of it and it looks insane! My fav was this one...funny but i felt the pain:


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If your anal like i am about keeping it clean after use, get about 3 cans of PAM and spray it everywhere prior to a mud feast. Most of the mud wont stick and what does will wash off easy...
Great Idea! for all the nooks that the mud likes to hide in! Tomorrow i turn the sprinkler on the underneath!
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Old December 19th, 2009, 09:47 AM
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Great advise thanks, the tires were more of a problem on the tree stumps and rocks when we hit the trail....
You are running too high a pressure in the tire. Much more of tire traction is to do with pressure than anything else.

12 psi would be a good starting point for that size of tire.
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