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Old September 23rd, 2014, 01:58 PM
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I didn't know there was the capability to land, nearly simultaneously, ~ 16 shots in such a controlled grid. That was an impressive display. What weapon system are we looking at here? JDAMs, other?
Look at the third video on the link.
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 02:18 PM
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I didn't know there was the capability to land, nearly simultaneously, ~ 16 shots in such a controlled grid. That was an impressive display. What weapon system are we looking at here? JDAMs, other? Look at the third video on the link.
Hmmm...CBU-105? That would be my guess given the cluster munition effect. JDAMs are unitary, at least all the ones I've ever seen. TLAM D's have a lot more submunitions,
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 02:21 PM
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As an engineer, the CBU-105 is still like magic to me. I have no idea how they do manage to have the computing horsepower to perform passive target acquisition with the shaped charged skeet submunitions spinning around like they do.
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 02:23 PM
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As an engineer, the CBU-105 is still like magic to me. I have no idea how they do manage to have the computing horsepower to perform passive target acquisition with the shaped charged skeet submunitions spinning around like they do.
Dude, you are telling me-I'm a Marine...only reason I have half a clue is I hang out with too many USAF guys. Oh, and while not as magic as low dud rate precision cluster munitions, this warms my heart: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/21...to-middle-east Death is coming, in a plane built around a cannon.
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 02:33 PM
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Dumb cluster bombs landing on that precise grid? I'm still thinking four F-15s simultaneously releasing 1000-lb JDAMs. Something like this: http://www.military.com/video/operat...1483309816001/
Ray, let us know what you find out.
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 02:34 PM
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I thought they used F-22's last night?
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 02:37 PM
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Dude, you are telling me-I'm a Marine...only reason I have half a clue is I hang out with too many USAF guys. Oh, and while not as magic as low dud rate precision cluster munitions, this warms my heart: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/21...to-middle-east Death is coming, in a plane built around a cannon.
Warthogs are impressive. Hard to say that is not a "combat" vehicle. Gov't doubletalk from Obama I guess.
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 02:39 PM
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Dumb cluster bombs landing on that precise grid? I'm still thinking four F-15s simultaneously releasing 1000-lb JDAMs. Something like this: http://www.military.com/video/operat...1483309816001/ Ray, let us know what you find out.
1000 pounders would be much higher yield. GBU105 is precision guided...basically a cluster JDAM.
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I thought they used F-22's last night?
Only if they needed to keep some papers weighed down on the ramp... Or a sound bite.
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 03:19 PM
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1000 pounders would be much higher yield. GBU105 is precision guided...basically a cluster JDAM.
Thanks, I had no idea. After reading up on the GBU-105, now I see why Ed is so giddy. Impressive stuff.
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I thought cluster bombs were used on vehicles, convoys, not buldings.
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Wasn't there talk of cancelling the entire A-10 program due to it being non-essential or something?
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 04:48 PM
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F-15, F-16, F-22, B-1 and F-18s were involved in the first few rounds of sorties.

Ironic that the F-22s first combat engagement was air to ground.
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 05:18 PM
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But didn't shoot......
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 06:31 PM
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The F22's were used last week turning the Tupolev's in Alaska.

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F-22's have been turning Russians around in Alaska for years. The pilots say when they pull up beside them all the Russians take pictures of them to show the folks back home.

Of course they don't have any idea the F-22 is in the neighborhood until it shows up at their wingtip...
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F-22's have been turning Russians around in Alaska for years. The pilots say when they pull up beside them all the Russians take pictures of them to show the folks back home.

Of course they don't have any idea the F-22 is in the neighborhood until it shows up at their wingtip...
That's be cause you helped build it Jack... Keep up the good work. When will your 90 be stealth?
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Old September 24th, 2014, 01:22 AM
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I thought cluster bombs were used on vehicles, convoys, not buldings.
Take a look at the footage, that strike was a vehicle staging area.

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Wasn't there talk of cancelling the entire A-10 program due to it being non-essential or something?
USAF has been trying to get rid of it for decades. Congress won't let them, which from a ground guy perspective may be one of the few times I feel like the legislature is actually doing its job. Without a bonafide replacement for low/slow CAS to support ground troops it is, literally, a lifesaver. But it's not fast and sexy like an F-22, so nobody at the institutional level wants to keep paying for an aging airframe that doesn't support (perceived) core missions.
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That's kind of funny considering if I had gone into the Air Force like I wanted, I wanted to fly the A-10. My next choice would have been the KC135.
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Old September 24th, 2014, 02:03 AM
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Interesting that you wanted to go KC; talk about an under appreciated asset-an often overlooked critical difference between what we do compared to pretty much everyone else is big wing tanking (among a few others of course).
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