Is it just me? - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old March 9th, 2015, 03:37 PM
Roverlab
Status: Offline
Trevor Griffiths
85 110, 92 110, 92 RR, 06 LR3
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Elizabethotwn, PA
Posts: 1,646
Is it just me?

I was hoping the 50-ish degrees and sunshine we're having today would soothe my ire, but I swear it's getting harder in this industry.
Vendors selling inferior or defective parts, some Genuine, and a vendor that until a recent merger didn't have any trouble filling the order correctly, an insurance broker who knew he wasn't going to be able to renew my garage keepers policy so he let it expire without telling me, leaving me uninsured and shut down, (also couldn't drive my primary Rover as that was also covered under that policy) for 9 days, another vendor that damaged an item entrusted to their care, and even some customers so vague about their Rover's symptoms, I need a f-ing crystal ball to know why it's here.

Rant possibly over. There is always tomorrow.
__________________
Roverlab is now British 4x4 Specialists.
Email is
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Same place, new dogs.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old March 9th, 2015, 03:43 PM
Cajun
Status: Offline
G
1987 110
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 293
Interesting that this was also your 911 post.
Btw - I'm currently being burned by a vendor not filling order and no refund yet I sent 1000s of dollars for parts
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 9th, 2015, 03:44 PM
Red90's Avatar
Red90
Status: Offline
John B.
1991 Defender 90, 200TDI
Site Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
Posts: 9,226
Registry
Longest sentence in the world!
__________________
Pissing people off on the "net" since 1983.

Land Rover. Turning owners into mechanics since 1948.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old March 9th, 2015, 03:48 PM
nathanwind's Avatar
nathanwind
Status: Offline
Jason Lavender
88-90-127-LR3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Saratoga NY
Posts: 8,741
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverlab View Post
I was hoping the 50-ish degrees and sunshine we're having today would soothe my ire, but I swear it's getting harder in this industry.
Vendors selling inferior or defective parts, some Genuine, and a vendor that until a recent merger didn't have any trouble filling the order correctly, an insurance broker who knew he wasn't going to be able to renew my garage keepers policy so he let it expire without telling me, leaving me uninsured and shut down, (also couldn't drive my primary Rover as that was also covered under that policy) for 9 days, another vendor that damaged an item entrusted to their care, and even some customers so vague about their Rover's symptoms, I need a f-ing crystal ball to know why it's here.

Rant possibly over. There is always tomorrow.
Might I suggest a few beers to take the edge off? That certainly seems to help me . And if "whiskey" counts as "beer", then even better.

But I do feel your pain. When I did my clutch on the 90 (original clutch, that on a rough-use rig) made it 100K before failure (and it was the throwout bearing that failed). My "replacement" made it 10K miles (maybe) before my throwout bearing started screaming at me again...which was lovely. So I've just lived with it, should have gone with the heavy-duty FTC5200HD intially...but I think at the time I didn't realize this existed. So now the HD is in the box of "spares", but pulling the trans just to do the stupid throwout bearing that shouldn't have started to fail within 10K miles after replacement just isn't at the top of my priority list...
__________________
Jason Lavender
'71 Series IIA
'88 127 #F96 DKN
'94 90 NAS #324
'06 LR3 HSE

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

(10% discount for DSource members, use coupon code "D90")

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 9th, 2015, 03:56 PM
Roverlab
Status: Offline
Trevor Griffiths
85 110, 92 110, 92 RR, 06 LR3
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Elizabethotwn, PA
Posts: 1,646
I forgot to mention that we only had some Troeg's Java Head in the fridge which isn't my kinda beer. I do have some Knob Creek in the cupboard, but even that is going to have to wait until after hip-hop dance class and tae kwon do tournament team practice.....
__________________
Roverlab is now British 4x4 Specialists.
Email is
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Same place, new dogs.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 9th, 2015, 03:56 PM
Roadsiderob's Avatar
Roadsiderob
Status: Offline
Robert Dassler
1994 D90
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA
Posts: 994
I feel your pain. Beer & whiskey rarely fix it, but are worth a try occasionally. You just gotta do as much as it takes for as long as it takes and never give up. And if you do that, all of your current problems will eventually be replaced with different problems
__________________
Rob Dassler
SWR Automotive
505-872-7818 (shop)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 9th, 2015, 03:59 PM
rijosho's Avatar
rijosho
Status: Offline
Joshua
1995 Black ST - Rhinolined edition
Research Assistant/Eagle Eyes
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,557
Registry
You need a good bike ride to clear your head, Trevor!
__________________
Quote:
I am talking purely from an aesthetics standpoint.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 9th, 2015, 04:03 PM
nathanwind's Avatar
nathanwind
Status: Offline
Jason Lavender
88-90-127-LR3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Saratoga NY
Posts: 8,741
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverlab View Post
I forgot to mention that we only had some Troeg's Java Head in the fridge which isn't my kinda beer. I do have some Knob Creek in the cupboard, but even that is going to have to wait until after hip-hop dance class and tae kwon do tournament team practice.....
On a more down and serious note, you do have to remember what the "important" things are. In the past couple months, my 15-year old dog died (my dog, not the wife's dog...she has hers as well...so again we are talking my dog here), my mom was diagnosed with a very serious form of cancer, my best friends dad (whom I've know just about my entire life) and is only in his 70s has onset dimentia and - when I just recently saw him - literally had no idea who I was. And there's a slew of other little things I'm sure I'm glancing over.

I suppose, you've gotta stick to the "don't sweat the small stuff" mantra since as Rob pointed out - there's always a slew of other problems waiting to knock at the door.

But there is something in the air that is for sure, which I was just talking about with my above mentioned friend. Because, oh yeah this as well - they just got back from a week at Disney last month with the entire family, which was paid for by his wife's dad/mom (and his wife's parents attended as well). He stayed in Florida after the Disney trip to meet up with some golf buddies the following week, and two days later the dad drops dead of a heart attack while still down in Florida.
__________________
Jason Lavender
'71 Series IIA
'88 127 #F96 DKN
'94 90 NAS #324
'06 LR3 HSE

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

(10% discount for DSource members, use coupon code "D90")

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old March 9th, 2015, 04:13 PM
Overlander's Avatar
Overlander
Status: Offline
mark kellgren
in between D's in an 04 D2
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 6,531
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverlab View Post
I was hoping the 50-ish degrees and sunshine we're having today would soothe my ire, but I swear it's getting harder in this industry.
Vendors selling inferior or defective parts, some Genuine, and a vendor that until a recent merger didn't have any trouble filling the order correctly, an insurance broker who knew he wasn't going to be able to renew my garage keepers policy so he let it expire without telling me, leaving me uninsured and shut down, (also couldn't drive my primary Rover as that was also covered under that policy) for 9 days, another vendor that damaged an item entrusted to their care, and even some customers so vague about their Rover's symptoms, I need a f-ing crystal ball to know why it's here.

Rant possibly over. There is always tomorrow.
I'll trade you all these ills for a weekend from of my beagles.
__________________
Mark Kellgren
KM4BOR

ISIL and al qaeda can go F*ck themselves...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old March 9th, 2015, 04:35 PM
galen216's Avatar
galen216
Status: Offline
Galen Lentz
'98 D1
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: State College, PA
Posts: 562
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanwind View Post
Might I suggest a few beers to take the edge off? That certainly seems to help me . And if "whiskey" counts as "beer", then even better.

But I do feel your pain. When I did my clutch on the 90 (original clutch, that on a rough-use rig) made it 100K before failure (and it was the throwout bearing that failed). My "replacement" made it 10K miles (maybe) before my throwout bearing started screaming at me again...which was lovely. So I've just lived with it, should have gone with the heavy-duty FTC5200HD intially...but I think at the time I didn't realize this existed. So now the HD is in the box of "spares", but pulling the trans just to do the stupid throwout bearing that shouldn't have started to fail within 10K miles after replacement just isn't at the top of my priority list...
Trevor if it helps Jason just answered one of my problems because you posted this thread. Unfortunately, it goes back to the aforementioned crappy parts.

Time for a day at RC to get away?
__________________
'98 D1
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old March 9th, 2015, 04:35 PM
Bill Larson's Avatar
Bill Larson
Status: Offline
Bill Larson
97 D90 SW
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: AUS
Posts: 6,563
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadsiderob View Post
I feel your pain. Beer & whiskey rarely fix it, but are worth a try occasionally. You just gotta do as much as it takes for as long as it takes and never give up. And if you do that, all of your current problems will eventually be replaced with different problems
If they all had customers like me...right Rob!...lol...
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old March 9th, 2015, 05:07 PM
nathanwind's Avatar
nathanwind
Status: Offline
Jason Lavender
88-90-127-LR3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Saratoga NY
Posts: 8,741
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by galen216 View Post
Trevor if it helps Jason just answered one of my problems because you posted this thread. Unfortunately, it goes back to the aforementioned crappy parts.

Time for a day at RC to get away?
Throwout bearing related, I'm assuming? The factory bearings are shite...aftermarket are even worse. I'm actually sort of excited to give the HD one a go...less excited to get covered from head-to-toe with grime (mostly from RC I'm sure!) dropping on me from the 90 while I pull the exhaust and trans again.
__________________
Jason Lavender
'71 Series IIA
'88 127 #F96 DKN
'94 90 NAS #324
'06 LR3 HSE

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

(10% discount for DSource members, use coupon code "D90")

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old March 9th, 2015, 06:42 PM
Roverlab
Status: Offline
Trevor Griffiths
85 110, 92 110, 92 RR, 06 LR3
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Elizabethotwn, PA
Posts: 1,646
Thanks, John!
Jason, I'm so tired of looking at my Rangie and Series and there need for attention, I may just sell them.....

------ Follow up post added March 9th, 2015 06:51 PM ------

Jason, I'm pretty sure I know how you feel, and I'm sorry for your losses. I've got the 75 year old dementia dad, and the ol dog no longer with us to add to the mix. I lost Francis the Roverlab last fall after 14 years....
Galen, I currently don't have anything trail ready, and really don't see getting my own cars into the shop anytime soon....but I could winch bitch.
__________________
Roverlab is now British 4x4 Specialists.
Email is
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Same place, new dogs.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old March 9th, 2015, 07:09 PM
Ren Ching's Avatar
Ren Ching
Status: Offline
Skinny Pete
'84 90 "Yamelo"/'88 RRC "Chewbacca"
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Downtown
Posts: 4,696
Registry
How much free-play do you have on your clutch pedal?

Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanwind View Post
Throwout bearing related, I'm assuming? The factory bearings are shite...aftermarket are even worse. I'm actually sort of excited to give the HD one a go...less excited to get covered from head-to-toe with grime (mostly from RC I'm sure!) dropping on me from the 90 while I pull the exhaust and trans again.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Present:
1960 SII 109"- "Red Square"
1984 90 Tdi- "Yamelo"
1988 RRC- "Chewbacca"
1987 RRC- "Chewy 2"
2008 RRS SC- "The Supersofa"

Past:
1959 SII 88"- "The Little Green Beastie" last seen in NY
1972 SIII 88"- "GreenHELL" now in NC
1988 90 "Eric the Half a Bee" half a truck, sold for parts
1991 RRC- never got a name- long since recycled
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old March 9th, 2015, 07:15 PM
Daddymow's Avatar
Daddymow
Status: Offline
Raub A.
1987 D110 Tithonus
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Stuart, FL / Boone, NC
Posts: 3,966
Registry
no, it's not just you. I just got in (from a 12 hour day doing a job that should have taken 6 hours) and read your post and had to chuckle remembering a pm Mr. Briggs sent me recently.


__________________
You can't polish a turd but you can roll it in glitter - eBay.uk ad for Freelander.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old March 9th, 2015, 07:17 PM
nathanwind's Avatar
nathanwind
Status: Offline
Jason Lavender
88-90-127-LR3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Saratoga NY
Posts: 8,741
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren Ching View Post
How much free-play do you have on your clutch pedal?
It's adjusted spot-on trust me. I'm guessing it's more that the shite new bearings can't handle a trip or two to Rausch Creek.
__________________
Jason Lavender
'71 Series IIA
'88 127 #F96 DKN
'94 90 NAS #324
'06 LR3 HSE

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

(10% discount for DSource members, use coupon code "D90")

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old March 9th, 2015, 07:39 PM
Ren Ching's Avatar
Ren Ching
Status: Offline
Skinny Pete
'84 90 "Yamelo"/'88 RRC "Chewbacca"
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Downtown
Posts: 4,696
Registry
so it only makes noise when you're depressing the pedal?

Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanwind View Post
It's adjusted spot-on trust me. I'm guessing it's more that the shite new bearings can't handle a trip or two to Rausch Creek.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Present:
1960 SII 109"- "Red Square"
1984 90 Tdi- "Yamelo"
1988 RRC- "Chewbacca"
1987 RRC- "Chewy 2"
2008 RRS SC- "The Supersofa"

Past:
1959 SII 88"- "The Little Green Beastie" last seen in NY
1972 SIII 88"- "GreenHELL" now in NC
1988 90 "Eric the Half a Bee" half a truck, sold for parts
1991 RRC- never got a name- long since recycled
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old March 9th, 2015, 08:06 PM
nathanwind's Avatar
nathanwind
Status: Offline
Jason Lavender
88-90-127-LR3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Saratoga NY
Posts: 8,741
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren Ching View Post
so it only makes noise when you're depressing the pedal?
How do you say..."zats a bingo"?

We just say "bingo".

But yes, and it's got that all too familiar unhealthy throwout bearing sound.
__________________
Jason Lavender
'71 Series IIA
'88 127 #F96 DKN
'94 90 NAS #324
'06 LR3 HSE

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

(10% discount for DSource members, use coupon code "D90")

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old March 9th, 2015, 08:34 PM
icnsltmfg's Avatar
icnsltmfg
Status: Offline
Adam
1988 D90 RHD 19J
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North NJ
Posts: 521
Registry
I love Mondays and dealing with vendors...like I have the time or patience to call every Monday to Waste Management to find out why they have not picked up dumpsters at two of my stores only to hear that the driver couldn't locate the containers...WTF...they are big green things with a huge WM sticker and a shit load of trash overflowing...and they are right behind the store! The Health Dept is all over me because the animals (both 4 legs and 2 legs) rip open the bags looking for donuts and bagels...

Employees don't want to work, vendors suck, and customers are a PITA...but hey unemployment is down and the economy is soooo much better...yeah right!
__________________
America Runs on Dunkin'
Rovers Run on Diesel

2017 Range Rover L405 HSE TD6
2008 Range Rover HSE L322/MkIII - Gone but not forgotten
1988 D90 County RHD 2.5TD
2015 Porsche Cayenne TD
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old March 9th, 2015, 09:28 PM
Uncle Douglas's Avatar
Uncle Douglas
Status: Offline
Doug Crowther
A defender in every driveway-motto
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gods Country- Central Virginia
Posts: 11,831
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverlab View Post
soothe my ire, but I swear it's getting harder in this industry.
Vendors selling inferior or defective parts, some Genuine, and a vendor that until a recent merger didn't have any trouble filling the order correctly.
If you have it down how to relay that set of circumstances to a customer, instead of internalizing the stress and just making it all seamless to the customer, then beers on me while you explain your methodology to me. There is a reason my hair is rapidly graying.
__________________
Good judgement comes from experience,experience comes from bad judgement.

Dividing Creek Imports
Worldwide Vehicle Shipment and Importation Service
Restoration & Modification work


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

410.693.1391


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Just to let you all know Buckon37s Misc. Chit-Chat 4 June 7th, 2004 01:38 AM
Just a quck question for the SW people rover4x4 Defender Technical Discussions 4 December 23rd, 2003 06:50 PM
My D90...just restored... P1CR Misc. Chit-Chat 14 December 7th, 2003 07:27 AM
just wanted to share project mattdh Misc. Chit-Chat 6 November 12th, 2003 12:01 PM
Subject: ID THEFT Warning (No Rover - Just a Tidbit)) milli Misc. Chit-Chat 3 October 28th, 2003 05:24 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:03 AM.


Copyright