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Old July 6th, 2011, 01:49 PM
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Input on mini coopers needed please

Its still British. Looking into getting a clubman cooper for a company car and figured I would get some outside opinion before I start taking hard looks on the lot. Things I am taking into consideration are cost of replacement parts, wear and tear, etc.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 01:54 PM
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Buy new, and sell after 3 years or 60,000 miles, whichever comes first. You don't want to maintain that thing for anything more complicated than an oil change or pay to maintain it.

That said, the Countryman is a better bet. At least it has two real back seats and 5 doors.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 01:56 PM
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I had a cooper s from 04 to 07. Great value at the time. Paid 26k for it. Drove it 30000 miles and sold it for 20k. Was super fun.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 01:57 PM
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I have a 2 friends that have had them much longer than 60k and 3 years. They are happy. The Mini type S is fast...

I think they have more German input in them then British....
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Old July 6th, 2011, 02:08 PM
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Yeah only issue I had was it ate front tires and front brakes
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Old July 6th, 2011, 02:49 PM
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The new mini cooper is about as british as a Zeplin!
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Old July 6th, 2011, 03:25 PM
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Yeah it does have loads of BMW stuff in it for sure but my '03 S was assembled in the UK. The hood release is still on the right side. Love the car. Big difference in driving style going from a Land Rover to the Mini and back.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 03:50 PM
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I have a 2010 mini....fun car to drive. I haven't driven it for a long stretch of time, so take comfort into account. I agree with the above statement of after 3 years dump it! Right now BMW handles all maintenance for the first 4 (I think) years. Since it uses synthetic oil, they'll only change it every 10k miles... The service agreement is nice, if they need to keep your car overnight and/or longer, they loan you a free mini!
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Old July 6th, 2011, 04:01 PM
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They do a WRC spec mini now... 4wd, uber fast.... was on Top Gear last week

http://www.minimotorsport.com/en/wrc
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Old July 6th, 2011, 04:04 PM
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They do a WRC spec mini now... 4wd, uber fast.... was on Top Gear last week

http://www.minimotorsport.com/en/wrc
Can't get nice stuff like that in North America.....
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Old July 6th, 2011, 04:28 PM
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We had an '03 s that was honestly the worst car I've owned. in the first 10K it needed 2 wheel bearings, a clutch throw out bearing, new tire pressure senors and a good chunk of the interior trim reinstalled. And thanks to the buffons at mini of sterling (VA) it was never in for less than 3 days. Terrible experience. That said, i sold it a year after we drove it off the showroom floor with 11K on it and it's trade-in value was $500 less than we paid for it new. The audi we replaced it with was better in every respect.

But that's just one data point.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 05:02 PM
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We've had our 2004 S since new. No problems other than going through tires. But that could be my driving style. It's got 75k on it now. Looking to trade it in on a new ALL4 Countryman!
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Old July 6th, 2011, 05:12 PM
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My father in law had an 03 that had some issues and he traded it in because he was sick of bad service. Anyway he got a volvo c30 six speed and I drove it over the weekend. Actually kind of an awesome little car.
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My only issue with them as a company car is the crash worthiness... How would it hold up against a Yukon XL or similar?
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I was considering a mini and ended up with a jetta sportwagon diesel.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 06:28 PM
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It may be assembled in the UK, but it's a newer BMW through and through (except for the oddball Brazilian Chrysler/Rover engine), with the good and bad that comes with that.

My girlfriend has a Cooper, my good friend I'm staying with now has a Cooper S with the full John Cooper works package and other goodies. My experience -- fun cars in the city, not great for long trips. Interior is cheap plastic, shows wear fast. If it has runflat tires, dump them and get real tires -- the car all ready has relatively little suspension compliance, the hard runflat sidewalls make it jittery and ride like a buckboard. I wouldn't go larger than 16" wheels on a daily driver, also to retain some sidewall flex to help the suspension and your fillings. Front seats are so/so on comfort, rear is for groceries or children you dislike. Expect the electric PS pump to be noisy, even when it's not failing.

I'd buy a 2002-2006 Cooper S if I was in the market. The new ones are fugly. BMW has also lost the plot, now offering the Mini as a 4wd that appears to be targeted at the Honda CR-V/Toyota RAV4/Subaru Forrester buyers. WTF? Another example of the marketing department answering a question no one asked.

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My only issue with them as a company car is the crash worthiness... How would it hold up against a Yukon XL or similar?
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest not running in to a Yukon or any large SUV, unless you are also driving one of these plodding beasts. The beauty of a nimble small car is it makes it easier to avoid situations that lead to accidents. It's fully possible to do so in a larger car, it just takes a bit more effort and anticipation.
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I was considering the clubman but my wife said no way! I like the car and think it looks pretty cool. My wife felt it didn't go with the Defender, Shelby or my Ford Raptor. I was thinking of having at least having 1 fuel efficient car. truth fully it is more of a chic car/metro sexual here in Orlando but still I think it's very cool!
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The beauty of a nimble small car is it makes it easier to avoid situations that lead to accidents. It's fully possible to do so in a larger car, it just takes a bit more effort and anticipation.
I love this quote, and my 4-door GTI for the same reasons
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I will be purchasing a 2012 JCW Mini hardtop this fall to replace my 05 LR3. I don't need the extra space since I will still have my RR and Defender. And it would be nice to have a vehicle with gas mileage.
I owned a 2002 JCW Mini hardtop and loved it (traded it in for the 05 LR3). We never had a problem with it, my wife and I both drove the heck out of it. I even kept the run flats because I didn't mind the harshness of the ride.
Guess it is full circle for me. I suggest you go for it.
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Old July 7th, 2011, 07:31 AM
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My wife has an 03 Cooper. Fun car for not even being an S. Yes, we have had some issues, but I have learned the '03s are the ones to avoid. She was recently rear ended at a dead stop by an '07 Accord and knocked her into another car hard enough to knock her earrings off onto the dash. Accord was undrivable and towed away. MINI drove home with minimal damage. Would buy another, probably an S cabrio. I did se a very cool looking Countryman S yesterday too...
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