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Old June 22nd, 2016, 09:33 AM
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Importing My 1991 200tdi LHD 90

I just wanted to make a quick post commenting on my import experience.

My process started in the beginning of March when I e-mailed a bunch of importers I know from this forum and other sources. I wanted a D90 for a train station/fun car, and didn't want to spend an arm and a leg.

After a few weeks of searching, Asif Khan, a member here, helped me find my perfected ROW 90 in Italy. Over the next two months, he aided me in acquiring, transporting, importing, and registering the car here in the USA. Not only was Asif instrumental in finding the vehicle, but there is absolutely no way i could have gone through the acquisition and import process without him.

No matter what someone tells you who is selling a truck abroad, it is VERY complicated to import for someone who hasn't do it before. Again, I consider myself a relatively intelligent person, and I could not have done it without Asif.

The whole process took about two months and went relatively flawlessly.

Now, about the truck:

The truck is a 1991, 200tdi, LHD Defender 90. It has 118,000km on the original 200tdi and is really in pretty great shape (for a 25 year old car!).

The total cost, in my driveway, was just under $17,000. $4,000 of that was for Asif's hard work (every cent of which he deserved), and the rest was for the vehicle itself, transportation, shipping, customs, registration, etc.

I am extremely satisfied with the purchase and intend to use Asif again to import future Land Rovers I may need.

I am posting this because I just wanted to show that is still is possible to get a solid truck for under $20,000. When I first posted that I wanted a reasonably priced truck, everyone basically said anything under $20k will be a rust bucket needed a full restoration, new engine, etc.

I then saw that, most dealers here in the USA were in fact selling old 80's series trucks with burnt out diesel engines, covered in rust, RHD, for $15k plus!

I am so happy I went with importing. I got a beautiful truck with a great engine, in great shape for well under $20k, thanks to Asif.

Check out the photos, with more to come as I driver her!
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 10:14 AM
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Congratulations. I'm in the process of bringing in a D90 to Canada. I hope it goes as smooth as it did for you.
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 10:19 AM
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Congrats on the 90! And thanks for the info...now we know what the margin is from these flippers! I am sure your truck would have been 28k if posted for sale here originally.
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 10:45 AM
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Congrats on the 90! And thanks for the info...now we know what the margin is from these flippers! I am sure your truck would have been 28k if posted for sale here originally.
Exactly! At least what the margin should be...sometimes the markups on terribly beat up vehicles seems to be insane.
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 10:50 AM
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The TD5 sticker needs to go asap!
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 10:57 AM
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Well done! But why the td5 stickers on the wings?
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 10:58 AM
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Well done! But why the td5 stickers on the wings?
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The TD5 sticker needs to go asap!
TELL ME ABOUT IT!

Not sure what the Italiano who put those Td5 decals on was thinking, but going to order some Tdi decals from RN to replace. Probably wont be fun getting those off though...
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 11:01 AM
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 11:29 AM
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Congrats on the 90! And thanks for the info...now we know what the margin is from these flippers! I am sure your truck would have been 28k if posted for sale here originally.
I think the flippers could use some defense here. If you take the risk to import a truck like this there is zero reason charging a mark up is wrong. As good as this truck appears to be it could also be a giant turd. Risk vs reward.

Shocked you aren't balking at the 33% fee on the price of the truck he paid a member here for his help.
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 11:36 AM
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 11:39 AM
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I think the flippers could use some defense here. If you take the risk to import a truck like this there is zero reason charging a mark up is wrong. As good as this truck appears to be it could also be a giant turd. Risk vs reward.

Shocked you aren't balking at the 33% fee on the price of the truck he paid a member here for his help.
I have no problem with markup. But come on Barry, there is a lot of import trash on here for crazy money, I've seen it first hand. No broad brush painting here, but there is a big business as of late hustling crap. If you want to buy it or defend it, write that check.
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 11:41 AM
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I think the flippers could use some defense here. If you take the risk to import a truck like this there is zero reason charging a mark up is wrong. As good as this truck appears to be it could also be a giant turd. Risk vs reward.

Shocked you aren't balking at the 33% fee on the price of the truck he paid a member here for his help.
I agree, there certainly is huge risk involved. I basically had 10 photos and an engine video before I paid for the truck. It could have come in coated in rust needing $10k in work. There is a big risk for the importers.

There is also a strong market, so there is zero shame in taking profit on something that a lay person would not be willing to do.

It's interesting that you say "Shocked you aren't balking at the 33% fee on the price of the truck" while others are taking a 100% markup or more, yet you attribute that to risk.
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For a "flipper", i.e. a person bringing in trucks professionally, there should be no risk. They should have a trustworthy person purchasing, inspecting and exporting the vehicles. If they do not, they deserve to fail.

There should also not, hopefully, be any risk for the OP as he has expected to use a trustworthy company to source, inspect and export the vehicle.
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 11:43 AM
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I have no problem with markup. But come on Barry, there is a lot of import trash on here for crazy money, I've seen it first hand. No broad brush painting here, but there is a big business as of late hustling crap. If you want to buy it or defend it, write that check.
Agreed. Asif was 100% honest with me and told me that with an import, unless I go there and check it myself, we never know how it will turn out. There is a risk.

Where it irks me a little more is when importers have the truck in hand in the USA already, know it's a rust bucket, and still mark it up 100% or more and try to sell.
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I have no problem with markup. But come on Barry, there is a lot of import trash on here for crazy money, I've seen it first hand. No broad brush painting here, but there is a big business as of late hustling crap. If you want to buy it or defend it, write that check.

No argument there. It's been going on for a long time. I just see why the mark up exists.

I actually have less issue with the mark up and more with the sellers lack of ability to even pick quality vehicles to sell.
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 11:45 AM
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Truck looks good. I was eyeing that one a few months ago on Ooyyoo.

Did you translate your "Certificato di Proprietario" (title) to english to register it or did the DMV take it in Italian? I am going to be going through Italy to NY registration in a couple weeks.
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Who helped import this? Did you thank him?
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Truck looks good. I was eyeing that one a few months ago on Ooyyoo.

Did you translate your "Certificato di Proprietario" (title) to english to register it or did the DMV take it in Italian? I am going to be going through Italy to NY registration in a couple weeks.
Ended up registering in CT where I moved, but yes did have to get it translated. Costed $50. No biggie.

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Asif Khan, really helped me out. Again, no way I could have done this on my own, not the simplest of processes.
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Old June 22nd, 2016, 12:22 PM
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Ended up registering in CT where I moved, but yes did have to get it translated. Costed $50. No biggie.
Cool. Who did the translation for you or what qualifications did they have? I figure I might as well get a jump on it.
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