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Old December 16th, 2013, 04:24 AM
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Hi everyone, new to the forum here, first post...

I'm a Brit who has lived in the US since 2008 and have recently become a citizen

However I am dearly missing seeing/driving/modifying my Defender 110. I've been driving my wife's Ford Escape and it doesn't seem to have the same je ne sais quoi

So I gave my Dad some cash and he went and bought me a 110 to ship out here. Its an amazing find... LHD 1985 Diesel, 9000m on the clock (yes really), EX MOD (Dad's ex army), 2 owners (MOD + my Dad now), kept in a dry warehouse, no rust, no scratches... a beauty.

So now I'm bringing it here... I have contacted a few RI's and also sent an email to Doug Crowther... Waiting for replies.

I'm hoping to get it to the East coast (Florida?) where my Dad will collect it and drive it to California (he said he wanted to). If we can't do that I'll just get it trucked.

I noticed there were some people on the forum who might want to share a container, I am considering RORO but if it makes sense to share a container then great, contact me.

Any advice for a first time importer?

Is it true that I don't have to pass the CA smog because it is a Diesel older than 1997... and don't need to get EPA or DOT certification because it is older than 21/25 years old?

I'm glad I found this forum, I've been reading it for a while, but first time poster
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Old December 16th, 2013, 07:01 AM
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Doug is one of the most highly respected importers around here. Be careful with the diesel in CA from what I can gather they aren't allowing new registrations.
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Old December 16th, 2013, 07:27 AM
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Doug is one of the most highly respected importers around here. Be careful with the diesel in CA from what I can gather they aren't allowing new registrations.
He is right about Doug. He is the best at what he does. Money well spent. Welcome to the board.
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Old December 16th, 2013, 08:03 AM
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Here is some info on smog cert in CA. Seems the 1997 exemption only applies to vehicle with gross vehicle weights of 14000lbs and above, otherwise exempt vehicles are 1975 or older.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm#BM2535
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Read user navydevildoc's thread here about California reg.
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Old December 16th, 2013, 08:18 AM
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X3 on Uncle Douglas! Concrats and welcome, contact Doug and let him do his thing, I and many here have used him and he is the best at what he does. He is extremely knowledgable and will guide you through the process worry free. Money well spent.

When the time comes and your dad opts for a trip across this great country, make sure you keep us updated as there some are great members all along the way for plenty of advice and help if needed.

Keep us updated and let's see some pictures of your new truck. We love pictures.
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Old December 16th, 2013, 09:09 AM
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Old December 16th, 2013, 10:40 AM
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Old December 16th, 2013, 01:19 PM
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Here is some info on smog cert in CA. Seems the 1997 exemption only applies to vehicle with gross vehicle weights of 14000lbs and above, otherwise exempt vehicles are 1975 or older.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm#BM2535
I don't think you read that close enough. It says that diesel vehicles 1997 or older OR vehicles with a gvwr of 14,000+. Therefore a diesel land rover older than 1997 would be exempt. The only thing I'm not clear on is if it needs to be sent to a BAR official to determine if it is in fact diesel. If so, I don't know if being a non EPA engine will be a problem or not. I bet it could depend on the technician doing the test.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 09:48 AM
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I would never ship a truck to the east coast. That's where customs is uber sensitive as 99% of rover imports go there.

I imported my 86 110 myself and brought it in through Long Beach. Easy as pie...

That being said, if your truck isn't a legit import, it probably won't matter which port you use.
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I went RORO NJ. Talk about easy as pie. I think its easy to get lost in the horror stories until you remember that an original truck with matching numbers and engine is fairly straightforward for customs agents. Additionally RORO ports see so many custom and one off vehicles (when I was there they needed a transport company to settle tariffs on a helicopter, i think they needed like $50K) there are far fewer red flags then with port containers.

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Old December 19th, 2013, 11:33 AM
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25 year DOT exemption no longer applies in Cal. Import Defender registration is not going to happen here anymore unless you have a brother or cousin that works at DMV. Sent you a PM, give me a call.
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Old December 20th, 2013, 12:06 AM
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Hi everyone, thanks so much for all the replies!

I'm just waiting to hear back from my father about the status of the vehicle. We are getting it fully checked over first. I only want to import it if it can be done legitimately and in line with all laws.

Everything looks quite positive so far, apart from @jayz who said Cal laws might make registration difficult/impossible... I'll call you tomorrow jayz

Pix to follow. Thanks again everyone!
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Old December 20th, 2013, 12:26 AM
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Doug is one of the most highly respected importers around here. Be careful with the diesel in CA from what I can gather they aren't allowing new registrations.
Any ideas why? Got a link to the law?

That'll be just my luck

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Read user navydevildoc's thread here about California reg.
Leaving myself some breadcrumbs, here is that thread - http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=29616
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Old December 20th, 2013, 03:37 AM
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I have a Defender diesel in Port Hueneme right now waiting for clearance of customs. I'm hoping to register it in California, but my backup plan is Utah. I'll let you know when I know more, but right now it is just a waiting game.
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Old December 20th, 2013, 04:00 AM
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Yeah I'd like to hear about this California diesel registration stuff too. I heard a rumor that they were changing the diesel exemption, but hadn't heard they just straight up shut it off.
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This from the dmv website seems straightforward

"Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?
Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:

Hybrid
Gasoline powered 1975 year model or older
Diesel powered 1997 year model and older or with a Gross Vehicle Weight rating (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs
Electric
Natural gas powered with a GVWR rating of more than 14,000 lbs.
Motorcycle
Trailer"

BUT in classic CA fashion, it's not that easy ... This PDF seems to say that now all Diesel engines need to at least meet the diesel emission standards that were in place in 2010 ...

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onrdies.../multirule.pdf
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Old December 20th, 2013, 06:33 PM
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It's not about the Ca emissions in this case. You can not directly import into Ca anymore unless the vehicle is from the late 60s or older UNLESS IT MEETS US DOT STANDARDS. The 25 year exemption doesn't apply in Ca. It either has to have the DOT inspection sticker or a letter from Land Rover stating it meets all US safety standards. I just went through this. After having plates for a year I got a letter from the newly formed Import Task Force telling me I either got one of the before mentioned or I should proceed with selling the car to someone outside of Ca. You gotta love it here. They just closed the hi cap magazine loophole here too as of Jan 1
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Old December 20th, 2013, 06:48 PM
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When I bought mine I talked to the DMV and AAA and both said as long as it had a title from another state that said diesel it should not be a problem - they said if I tried to directly import it would be a different story and one no one seemed to know yes or no it wouldn't be possible to register. So I went with the path of least resistance and bought a truck with a title in another state making it as the gal at DMV said "Just another used car"

it was worth the extra cost to buy one here knowing I could register it
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