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Tool/Survival/First Aid kit (all in one) to keep in your Rover, what basics would be a must? I'm going to put one together, and would like to hear all of your input.

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Old December 27th, 2012, 06:35 PM
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Tool/Survival/First Aid kit (all in one) to keep in your Rover, what basics would be a must? I'm going to put one together, and would like to hear all of your input.

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What situation are you planning for?
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Old December 27th, 2012, 07:05 PM
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What situation are you planning for?
Nothing specific, just the basic tools, first aid, basic needs.....
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Glock 17 with at least couple hundred rounds and at least 6 33 round factory glock magazines. (9mm is lighter to carry) Few thousand in cash, few pouches of quick clot, MRE kits, assorted flashlights, glow sticks, nylon rope, batteries, survival knife w/ compass / fishing kit inside handle, emergency first aid kit, emergency cell phone charging kit, few bottles of water, lots of strike anywhere matches.
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Old December 27th, 2012, 07:23 PM
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Glock 17 with at least couple hundred rounds and at least 6 33 round factory glock magazines. (9mm is lighter to carry) Few thousand in cash, few pouches of quick clot, MRE kits, assorted flashlights, glow sticks, nylon rope, batteries, survival knife w/ compass / fishing kit inside handle, emergency first aid kit, emergency cell phone charging kit, few bottles of water, lots of strike anywhere matches.
I'll have to substitute my Springfield 45XD.


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Old December 27th, 2012, 07:45 PM
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Glock 17 with at least couple hundred rounds and at least 6 33 round factory glock magazines. (9mm is lighter to carry) Few thousand in cash, few pouches of quick clot, MRE kits, assorted flashlights, glow sticks, nylon rope, batteries, survival knife w/ compass / fishing kit inside handle, emergency first aid kit, emergency cell phone charging kit, few bottles of water, lots of strike anywhere matches.
This is like a bad list off Amazon...

The G17 is a decent pistol for self defense (prefer the G19 myself but to each their own). The 33 round mags are great, if you're in N Ireland or Lebanon-and sticking to a car. Otherwise they are unwieldy.

Quick clot is supposed to cause blood to coagulate, take note it also burns like a mother f'er so I would suggest you bring a whole lot more pressure bandages (the Israeli stuff is pretty good).

To get to your question; tools, survival, and first aid can be one and the same but all depends on anticipated application. For survival in many places a AAA card and a Visa is all that's req'd.

If your application is further into the wilderness then you have to start asking yourself about your skills sets in terms of each one of those arenas-and are you talking solo, or are you also talking about others (more pertinent to survival and first aid).

For tools a good rule of thumb is to do maint on your truck and as you go keep track of what you use to replace parts and items; if you use it to do something that could be expected to need repair in the field consider carrying it as part of your tool kit. This can get unwieldy by itself.

Survival goes back to the above questions but breaks down into simple areas: water, food, shelter (and you could add health (first aid)-but that will be treated as your third category, and protection).
Each one of the above benefits from redundancy, i.e. water purification tablets + a water purification straw (+ onboard H2O; esp dependent upon anticipated climate).
Food is good for morale, and necessary if your timeframe for survival is over a few days. MRE's work, and provide way more calories than you really need for a survival situation.
Shelter is relative to climate and your comfort threshold. Tough to answer that question without more context.

First aid is another arena where redundancy and your knowledge base should dictate a lot. ABC/trauma is one thing, longer term health/maint is another...much depends on how many people you are planning on caring for (and for how long).

Sorry to answer a question with a question...but it's a lot to pack into one topic without starting a bigger conversation.
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Old December 27th, 2012, 07:50 PM
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Forget the heavy ammo! .22LR is a very effective round that no longer gets any credit in terms of survival. We kill wild hogs with them all the time at my hunting camp. If they can kill a hog, then they can kill an attacker (whatever it may be). Knock down power is obviously not the same, but it all depends on your intent.
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I would also add cold steel katana knife, and tin / wire snips. This is stuff you could reasonably put inside a bug out bag/pack. If I had the time, I'd grab my AR case and throw it over my shoulder, everything I need for it is already inside the carry case including 6 30rnd mags.

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Forget the heavy ammo! .22LR is a very effective round that no longer gets any credit in terms of survival. We kill wild hogs with them all the time at my hunting camp. If they can kill a hog, then they can kill an attacker (whatever it may be). Knock down power is obviously not the same, but it all depends on your intent.

I'd rather have a keltec SU-16C, extremely light weight, you can fold it in half to put in a back pack and you can drop hi-cap AR mags all day long and it uses relatively easy to carry .223
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Old December 27th, 2012, 08:25 PM
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I would also add cold steel katana knife, and tin / wire snips. This is stuff you could reasonably put inside a bug out bag/pack. If I had the time, I'd grab my AR case and throw it over my shoulder, everything I need for it is already inside the carry case including 6 30rnd mags.

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I'd rather have a keltec SU-16C, extremely light weight, you can fold it in half to put in a back pack and you can drop hi-cap AR mags all day long and it uses relatively easy to carry .223
Are you all going to leave these weapons in your rovers? Might need to invest in a secure lock box ...
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Old December 27th, 2012, 08:33 PM
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Are you all going to leave these weapons in your rovers? Might need to invest in a secure lock box ...
I wouldn't let my rover out of sight and i'd use the bags as pillows/shooting mat. Actually if things got that bad I'd take my 2012 wrangler sport unlimited. It's a lot more reliable than my D's at the moment.
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In terms of tools I find a good start is the following; a couple of rolls of Duck Tape, cable ties, a tube of super glue, a couple of feet of electical wire, a couple of wire coat hangers and a Leatherman Surge multitool. Also a copy of "Working in the Wild: Land Rover's manual for Africa" (ISBN: 185520859) is a very useful and small sized book to have in your LR, even if you aren't planning on heading to Africa.
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I have a suitcase metrinch set that I first hated but has saved me enough times it is now standard equipment. I also have a huge pair of channel locks, a smaller set of channel locks, a hammer, various assorted things like duct tape, electrical tape, fluids, a tire repair kit and small air compressor. I also keep an ecu, two sliver relays and an ignition tune up parts (take off used are fine) and ignition module. If I can't keep the truck moving with those and my head, I give up. I am not sure what the TD5 equivlent to silver relays are so I don't think I can help much on that front.
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Thanks for all of the replies, fellows.
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I used a hose clip and a bit of pond liner to repair my high pressure power steering lime for a 80 mile run to a workshop.

I use a section of toothpaste tube to do a temp repair sidewall cuts on MTB tires.

Having items you can use or improvise a solution is paramount.

Think about the probability of needing an item ... I'd prefer to pack a sleeping bag and candle to survive a night stranded in a car than all the weapons suggested.
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Tube of RTV and JB weld. Those always help and I forgot about them.
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I live way up North in BC in the middle of now where. What you want depending where you are is.
Satellite phone iridium not global start etc. the 9555 is great. A hand held gmrs/ vhf radio to get a hold of truck drivers or other workers that are working in remote areas. Compressor to inflate your tires when they are flat and is handy for multiple scenario's military folding shovel to dig out your car in snow or mud. Also handy to chop wood to make a fire or kill something.lol
water proof matches that will work in the most horrible weather conditions. A view candles to heat up the inside of your car if you are stranded in the middle of nowhere so you can stay warm inside your car if you have to. Thermo blanket to stay warm when you are freezing to death.
Flares, bear spray, bear bangers. You do not want to shoot a grizzly with a 9mm! Bear spray is super effective and will scare away most bears.
chains, work great in snow but also mud! jumper cables, work gloves, as mentioned before duck tape! always handy, nylon. Knife, flash light to signal for help when you have a broken leg and your sat phone is dead etc.
First aid kit. i like the Cabelas outfitter one to tread most injuries.
I have all these items in my 110 under the passenger side seat. I do not like to keep guns inside my 110. But my choice would be also glock 17. light, easy to use and will work in most conditions.

I have all these items in a bag that i can take out if i have to. The VHF radios are in most time a life safer and are on most roads ( logging roads ) mandatory.
The sat phone saved my life 2 times so i will never leave with out it. Make sure you have it stored in a pelican case so it is not broken when you need it the most!
If i go away for a longer period of time i bring some additional stuff.
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