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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:01 PM
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Just saw this on the inside cover of du pont registry. Now in the Jeep business? Pretty cool....... Wonder if a series will ever make it in their shop?
http://www.icon4x4.com/
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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:22 PM
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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:52 PM
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Impossible not to like the man, his company, mission, and products. Can't like the prices but thats me being cheap.

My first car was a red Willy's Cj3b.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:56 PM
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Agree

What an awesome job he must have!!

My first ride was a 1969 cj5. This was in 1987. Thing was a death trap but it looked cool.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 08:05 PM
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TLC is a great shop. Expensive but they do amazing work. When I was restoring my FJ40 my oil filter stem broke. Looked around everywhere and couldn't find a replacement. A quick call to TLC, a 30 minute drive later and $200 less in my wallet and I was back in business. I hope they do decide to make an ICON Defender, not that I could ever afford one. It would be interesting to see what they come up with. Doubt they can compare to ECR's authentic Defenders though. ICONS are like a completely new/different truck underneath with body panels made to look like the older trucks. I would totally pimp out my sister for one.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 08:42 PM
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Totally agree. Very cool stuff and TLC was a great resource when I had my FJ40. Id love to see what they did with a series truck. Here is my version of an "Icon" 109 without all the cool expensive stuff.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 08:54 PM
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Drooling at the notion of an icon defender...
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Old February 17th, 2010, 09:12 PM
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Wow, I'm impressed. Cool cat.
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Just written up in NYTimes.

Not much to the article, but cool pics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/au...27ICON.html?hp
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It would be interesting to see if TLC can compete with ECR in regards to Defender and Series restorations.
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I'm not sure you could even qualify what TLC does as "restoration". Do they actually use any original parts? It's almost a replica reinvention.

I just couldn't see, even with the money, of paying $80k for a CJ3 that is completely modernized. Quality-no question. I'm curious as to the type of clients they appeal to? And the FJ's are in the $100k range. wow
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Old June 29th, 2010, 03:08 PM
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It would be interesting to see if TLC can compete with ECR in regards to Defender and Series restorations.
We really do 2 different things.
TLC stuff is cool and anybody that makes it in this business gets my respect.

Our stuff is all Rover with a lot of original flavor in mind, even though we do custom stuff we always like to keep the overall look and feel of something that could have come out of the factory.

The TLC Icons are a new build that uses all US running gear with the look of an older vehicle. Super cool for sure, but I don't really see much overlap between TLC and ECR.

If we built an Icon it would have a Tdi, galv frame, etc etc.
If TLC built a Defender it would have a GM V8, 9" axles and such.

Nothing wrong with either vehicle, they just appeal to different folks.

A good number of our customers also have FJ40 Icons in their stables.
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The Icon is something very well executed in these days of mass produced cr*p and although I don't have anywhere near the funds to consider one it looks like a quality purchase.

I'm interested to see what original parts they retain in order to claim the original registration year ... probably the same parts as the late model TD5s that make it into the US!

The teflon powder coat finish is growing on me ... rather like the G-Star battleship gray!
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I'm interested to see what original parts they retain in order to claim the original registration year ... probably the same parts as the late model TD5s that make it into the US!
I am unaware of any specific regulations (unlike the UK point system) which dictates when a vehicle can no longer retain the original identity.
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Wouldnt what on of those TLC vehicles cost be a good start at ECR?
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Wouldnt what on of those TLC vehicles cost be a good start at ECR?
Worth every penny to end up with a mint Defender instead of a FJ replica! ;-)

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I am unaware of any specific regulations (unlike the UK point system) which dictates when a vehicle can no longer retain the original identity.
So I only have to sneak my TD5 over the border and perform a Vin swap restoration then?
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...If TLC built a Defender it would have a GM V8, 9" axles and such....

I just spit up my milk at the thought of that....I'm beginning to gravitate toward the purists.
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So I only have to sneak my TD5 over the border and perform a Vin swap restoration then?
You would not be the first or the last, but VIN swap is illegal. The line where restoration becomes VIN swap is what is fuzzy.

In the UK, it is legal to buy a new 300tdi/TD5/Puma, install a new land rover galvanized frame, new land rover suspension, and a new land rover steering assembly and call it a 1984. In fact, you would have one point extra.

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Their CJ is $101K. You can build quite a Defender for $101K.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 06:58 PM
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The line where restoration becomes VIN swap is what is fuzzy.
You have to retain the points ... not score them ... in your example I'm sure you'd end up with a Q plate when the vehicle was inspected despite the published rules .... our officials can be awkward like that. That being said many artificially aged vehicles do make it here and I've got nothing against them.

I guess Icon 'age' their vehicles to avoid various type approvals?
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