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Old February 24th, 2007, 10:25 AM
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I love my wife - selling the D90, but help!

-Well, the MRS. got fed up with me and even though the D90 has been in the shop only twice in 5 years when it does go in its a bit of a problem. Last time was 8 days for the water pump and spedo cable (yesyesyes I know and was chastised in a seperate thread but work/life, um no that should be work/ Rover time is totally out of balance these days). So no car for a week and it was a real problem.

Now my wife was rightly pissed at this and her solution was not to sell the D-90 but to get a 3rd car. Did I say I love my wife? That lets me play doctor on the 90 and not have to worry about it getting it running for Monday morning.

So my question is - Anyone with insight on little cars? I am looking for a new, inexpensive runabout that will take me to the office and back - 15 miles a day max (SoCa living and a 15 minute commute to the office -sweet!). In the paper I have seen the Yaris, Scion xA, Fit, Versa which all fall into the $11-14k MSRP range. My target is out the door all included for $13k.

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Old February 24th, 2007, 10:30 AM
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What about a used mini?
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Old February 24th, 2007, 10:34 AM
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Hyundai, 100k warrantee and if you compare one to a toyota or honda you will be surprised.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 10:34 AM
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If you had another $1k to spend, I'd say go with a Toyota Corolla. I've never heard a bad thing about them, and there is a reason why Toyota is the top car manufacture.

Heck, if you are going to be doing less than 6K miles per year, why not lease???

Btw, go out and buy your wife a nice piece of jewelry, she really does rock!
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Old February 24th, 2007, 12:22 PM
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How about another D90? Might break the budget but will win you cool points as your truck changes color constantly.

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Old February 24th, 2007, 02:09 PM
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Or a new VW Rabbit...a little over budget, but not by much.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 02:28 PM
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Dude, Southern California? Buy an nice roadbike and put the other 10k in mods on your D90.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 03:42 PM
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What about a used mini?
What are you trying to do -- get him a divorce? I thought Rovers were unreliable until we got ours ('06 S hardtop). Biggest piece of crap I've driven and I'm on about my 10th british car. We picked up an A3 and it's been fantastic. Perhaps a used A4 or, at least locally, you can lease a jetta for $199/month.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 06:53 PM
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A great opportunity for a shameless plug. Buy this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...QQcmdZViewItem

I am selling it right now. Reserve is almost 3k below blue book. I know you wanted new, but we have taken great care of this. It's a good car, for a Volkswagen
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Old February 24th, 2007, 07:21 PM
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I'd have to say Hyundai as well, and I had a Jetta for a commuter. VWs rock, but they're really great because of the comfort on a drive for over 45 minutes. It just isn't worth the money compared to a new Hyundai for the 15minutes. You won't mind if it gets dinged, the warranty is better than a rabbit, and gas mileage is kinda out the window (even though it competes). It'll run you for 10 good years and by then you'll have a tdi in your Defender and will drive it all the time.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 08:19 PM
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I own a MINI Cooper S as my daily driver. Fantastic Car. My sister has a standard MINI which she loves as well.

I am sure you could get a nice, well maintained one, for your 13k. Especially a standard MINI..........This would fit nicely in the driveway.

Plus - you would not have to learn how to park it. There are not many cars out there that are shorter then the D90.........but the MINI is only 11'-9".

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Old February 25th, 2007, 03:15 AM
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You live in T.O., so you might need something with a little more style than the cars suggested so far. True, the Mini is nice, but you can't get a new one in that price range.The new 2007 Nissan Sentra is about the best looking entry level compact I've ever seen, and I'm sure you could get a stripped one for around $13K. Check the Sentra out.
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Old February 26th, 2007, 07:20 PM
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I love the LA in-sight, Jordan. Look is important, and I keep having to stop myself when I see other cars and all the add on. Must be strong and remind myself - all monies are for the d90, then children, then wife, then house, then family, then world, then me.

With the cars, the bug-eyed look of the Yaris + price is what drew attention. As to a Mini, I love them, in fact I grew up in a 1972 midnight blue Austin Mini Cooper 1250cc (I think). Tight little thing! But here in LA, the used Mini market is higher priced and when looking at used cars I want the warrenty in place. I think I will look at the lease idea thought.

Weird thing, I just received a Bentley flier in the mail. For $6000 a month, plus something like $35,000 down I can get one of those for 39months.
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Old February 26th, 2007, 08:27 PM
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Paul you must make a lot to be on that mailing list. phd? If you want to keep that rover style, get a Freelander, I'm sure it'll be more reliable and it's snobby enough to fit in with the TO elite. I heard its got a honda tranny. (not sure but I think so)

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Old March 5th, 2007, 07:17 PM
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Actually, other than the Defender I would not buy a Rover. I think Ford has a pretty smart strategic marketing plan for its "premium" brand units - Range Rover, Jag. ect.. My concern is reliability which is the problem Ford has... period. Opening a can of worms on this site by saying this but EVERYONE I know with a RR or LR have problems. My 3rd car formost must be reliable. That is why the Ford Focus did not make the short list of budget minis.

Oh, and a buddy was up in Sequoia Valley a few months back and LR was there for a month doing promo for the L2 - that set of wheels is out of my price range and I have no faith in the local LR dealership after their last fiasco to lease one.

Finally - the mailing list. It is really funny, just got the new Jag offer and a Masarati. They really have me confused with someone with $$$$
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Hmm.. My family has had nothing but Fords,Lincolns,mercury's. Have never had a problem with them.
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Old March 5th, 2007, 07:50 PM
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In all honesty I don't think that the new Rovers are particularly problematic. You have to consider that a D90 is reliable b/c there is nothing to go wrong! The new LR3's and RRs have something like 27 different computers alone that have to communicate with each other, the ancilliarys they control and the switches that control them! Also, you have to take 2 things into acct. with the JD Powers survey.

1. It is based on problems per 100 vehicles and there is only about 20-25 problems/100 vehicles seperating the best from the worst!

2. In LR's own search into this they have determined that a good amt. of problems reported are not even problems, just customers who don't know how to operate something. (for god's sake, the rear wiper on a RR can be turned on and off to be sure, but to set the delay you have to turn it on, then off right away, then wait the desired amt. of time, then turn it back on!)

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Old March 6th, 2007, 05:12 PM
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I was in a similar situation as you are in. I've been daily driving my d90 and wanted to reduce the miles being put on and gain the ability to work on it and not worry about getting it back together in time to go to work. My solution: Series III. Yep, eight years ago when I bought my d90 my wife said I could not have bought anything less practical. Well, I proved her wrong, I bought a series. Now, between the two, one is running. Funny thing is, my wife likes the series so much, I bet she will end up driving it too. For 13k you could get one nice series, and just think, 5 years from now it will be worth close to what you bought it for. Can't say that about a corolla. And you get to still drive a rover.
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Old March 6th, 2007, 06:18 PM
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Hmm.. My family has had nothing but Fords,Lincolns,mercury's. Have never had a problem with them.
Then, how would you know if you have/had a problem? They are all same. Maybe be you don't know any "BETTER"? :D
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In all honesty I don't think that the new Rovers are particularly problematic. You have to consider that a D90 is reliable b/c there is nothing to go wrong! The new LR3's and RRs have something like 27 different computers alone that have to communicate with each other, the ancilliarys they control and the switches that control them! Also, you have to take 2 things into acct. with the JD Powers survey.

1. It is based on problems per 100 vehicles and there is only about 20-25 problems/100 vehicles seperating the best from the worst!

2. In LR's own search into this they have determined that a good amt. of problems reported are not even problems, just customers who don't know how to operate something. (for god's sake, the rear wiper on a RR can be turned on and off to be sure, but to set the delay you have to turn it on, then off right away, then wait the desired amt. of time, then turn it back on!)

Just my biased opinion (I sell them) haha
Dude,

Thats some serious spinning your doing there!

http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/new...df/2006082.pdf check out page 4. LR is in solid last place!

20-25 problems per 100 is a lot! But, no good sales person would not give it a shot, so, Cheers
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