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Old February 24th, 2010, 08:52 PM
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GM announced its shutting down its Hummer division after negotiations to sell it to the Chinese broke down.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 07:34 AM
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So no H4 ?

Too bad, the next one was pretty cool.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 07:51 AM
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I must say that I am not going to shed a tear. After the H1 it was all down hill.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 08:09 AM
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Will that make them as sought after as the D90?
The production number were about the same, right.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 08:14 AM
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Don't know. but I doubt it. They are not iconic vehicles in the way that Land Rovers are. If they did it would only be the H1 as the rest were mass produced garbage on wheels, not to mention ugly and poor performing.



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Old February 25th, 2010, 08:30 AM
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I am not sure the civilian H1s will become like the D90s. About 12k civilian verisions were built over 14 year. It's the military ones that will likely maintain value and appreciate. Something like 900 military ones were LEGALLY released on the US market.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 08:43 AM
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I did bump into a guy with an H1 that was a Diesel which was pretty cool.

But as far as the rest, lets just say there's a lot of nervous Guidos on LI that are worried about their warrantys!
Does putting 22's on void your warranty
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Old February 25th, 2010, 09:19 AM
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Wasn't the Hummer brand one of GM's more profitable units? Seems like they should keep it and get rid of Buick instead. But, that would not be green enough.
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It was profitable back when H2's and other huge SUVs were in in vogue, last year they sold less than 10,000 units.
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Glad to see them go. The H1 was a pile of junk and the rest of the civvy crap was just riding on its coattails. I worked on a few civvy H1s, we even had one as a plow truck, just an abomination of crappiness. I think they have put 5 transmissions in this thing. The driveline bits were surprisingly small, little girly differentials and axleshafts. Of course the portals are reducing the torque, but you are still putting a load of power through basically a GM 10 bolt diff. Yeah good luck with that.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 10:48 AM
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This one doesn't look that bad:

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/detr...er-hx-concept/
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Actually, the H1 was gone a long time ago already.... from the civilian market. But it was only resold and civilianized by GM's hummer division. It was never a "Hummer" product at the core. They are still being built for military use by AM General, and will be for a a couple more years still until the next generation vehicle replaces it.

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i always had the feeling that it cannot be that good offroad because it didnt had fixed axles, sure it had cool ground clearance but so have landy with big enough wheels. It was also so huge that i would rather get Unimog and let some workhsop civilize/lux it up if needed. it would eat H1 any day and are lifetime reliable. Here in europe one of coolest benefit of Wrangler or Landy is that they go even through forest ways or walk ways. H1 would not fit on many roads and between trees there, so good luck with offroading then.
Here are H1s only as "limo" in rentals company. Nobody really cares about them.
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2006 was the last year H1's were produced for the civilian market. Seems like, and correct me if I'm wrong, production went from about '92-'06 for the civilian market. Hummer H1 Alphas will only go up in value after this. These were produced only in 2006 with all interior upgrades and addressed all engine/transmission issues. However, these sold at a price tag around $150k and will remain that high, or increase. A limited number of these were produced. Throughout the years, Hummer H1's were modified due to recalls, engine/transmission issues, etc. Also, the engine size kept increasing as the years went on. These are great vehicles. To say they are not iconic is incorrect. It will go down as the classic U.S. military "jeep" of the 90s/00s. Like anything that gets discontinued, as supply drops, demand will go up. Therefore, I would bet that the price tags might go higher on these in the not too too distant future....but that won't take into account the military HMMWVs that will flood the market once they are replaced with a new upgraded military vehicle....we are already starting to phase these vehicles out by issuing them to foreign armies (such as Iraq). Therefore, parts will be scarce for a while due to the discontinuation, but will come back on line for a time when the military HMMWVs are phased out. Then again, it will be difficult to find quality mechanical parts due to the fact military vehicles are usually "beat up" and put through hell...so quality of parts might be in question at that point. Interior parts will be close to non-existant in the future, because military HMMWVs don't have the same interior options as the civilian counterpart. Personally, I like the classic H1. All of the H2s and H3s were crap, in my mind. The only true Hummer was the H1...and all hummer owners know this. You guys are going to hate me for this, but I plan on buying an H1 when I return from Afghanistan. I love those trucks.
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I guess I will probably be blacklisted for saying this, by I actually think the H3 was one of their best trucks. By the end of production the adventure package came with front center and rear selectable lockers, 4:1 low range and 33" tires (and 35's fit with some minor tweaks of the torsion bars) off the showroom floor. The little inline 5 was torquey enough for off-road and around town use, and the truck had great approach and departure angles and was available with a manual transmission.

If they had offered it with a nice little turbo diesel engine (they had an offering in Europe, but I don't honestly know the details, or if it was a good engine or not) and grafted a coil sprung rear axle on it (instead of adapting the Colorado's leaf sprung suspension) I think it would have been quite the Off-Road tool. Even as delivered I think it stands with the current Wrangler Rubicon for the best off the show room floor off-roader available these days. I even thought about buying one as a daily driver at one point
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I want a military HMMWV with slant back and a .50 cal machine gun...will that still be available? There are some bad drivers here in LA and I need to take them out...
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I want a military HMMWV with slant back and a .50 cal machine gun...will that still be available? There are some bad drivers here in LA and I need to take them out...
Great idea! Go ahead and do that
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I've actually wheeled with an H3 guy a couple of times. The steering tie rods collapsed, first one, then the other as it was hauled back to a road. He eventually bought a Rubi.
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I want a military HMMWV with slant back and a .50 cal machine gun...will that still be available? There are some bad drivers here in LA and I need to take them out...
You're going to call me crazy, but on www.gunsamerica.com they had one exactly like that for sale out of Washington half a year ago....but instead of one .50 cal, there were two... $500k price tag. And oh yea, you had to have a Class III license, be law enforcement, or be in the military to buy it.
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I want a military HMMWV with slant back and a .50 cal machine gun...will that still be available? There are some bad drivers here in LA and I need to take them out...
Looks like we missed our window. I was hoping to buy a Windrunner before the CA ban of 50 cals. but didnt get the chance.

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