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Old September 20th, 2015, 12:23 PM
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This should work. Leaf springs no less.
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Old September 20th, 2015, 04:21 PM
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Old September 20th, 2015, 06:41 PM
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How the hell is a leafer getting so twisted? Hard to zoom in on it to see clearly what the suspension is doing. Photochopped is my first guess.
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Old September 20th, 2015, 06:57 PM
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Holy crap...is that real? I've been doing this like a jerk and thought it was good
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Old September 20th, 2015, 07:29 PM
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People still use cones?
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Old September 20th, 2015, 08:26 PM
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Old September 20th, 2015, 09:08 PM
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Elliptical rear springs I believe???
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Old September 20th, 2015, 09:11 PM
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People still use cones?
Do you prefer zip-ties for Englands setup? I know I don't prefer chasing my springs down a hill .
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I think so for me too. My rears keep popping out at the top and never seat properly again, and I have literally gone months without re-seating them sometimes. Doesn't seem to matter
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Old September 20th, 2015, 09:42 PM
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I think so for me too. My rears keep popping out at the top and never seat properly again, and I have literally gone months without re-seating them sometimes. Doesn't seem to matter
And I've NEVER had to reseat my springs ....Jimmy, please take note.
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Old September 20th, 2015, 09:43 PM
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How the hell is a leafer getting so twisted? Hard to zoom in on it to see clearly what the suspension is doing. Photochopped is my first guess.
Twisted is the key word here. Iirc this is Bill Van Snorkle's truck. He is using some flexible joint instead of standard spring bushings to allow the leaf pack to twist more allowing for more travel. Oh yeah that in addition to longer springs, home made portal axles, and a slew of other mods for sure.
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Old September 20th, 2015, 09:45 PM
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Bill Van Snorkle's truck.
You're shitting me? This is someones actual name? Awesome!
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Old September 21st, 2015, 06:55 AM
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I think so for me too. My rears keep popping out at the top and never seat properly again, and I have literally gone months without re-seating them sometimes. Doesn't seem to matter
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And I've NEVER had to reseat my springs ....Jimmy, please take note.
Spring retainers are where its at! I've had them on all of my Land Rovers and I've never had a spring come unseated.
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Old September 21st, 2015, 07:23 AM
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You're shitting me? This is someones actual name? Awesome!
Hahahhaa I was thinking the same.
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Spring retainers are where its at! I've had them on all of my Land Rovers and I've never had a spring come unseated.
Spring retainers - assuming you're talking on both ends, top & bottom - can actually limit your travel as you'll encounter the limits of how much the spring can actually stretch. I've got mine retained on the bottom, with ludicrously long cones on the top. Hence Exhibit A-F above .
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I don't think that is usable suspension travel if the coil has unloaded.
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Old September 21st, 2015, 07:59 AM
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I don't think that is usable suspension travel if the coil has unloaded.
How so? The key here is traction - that's the name of the game - not actually if the spring is just floating there.
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Old September 21st, 2015, 08:03 AM
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How so? The key here is traction - that's the name of the game - not actually if the spring is just floating there.

So in that last picture you posted, you think you would have had any traction from the left rear tire? Pretty sure it would just spin if your locker was disengaged even if it was a totally dry surface.
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Fully home-built, and "extremely" modified.


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Twisted is the key word here. Iirc this is Bill Van Snorkle's truck. (...) and a slew of other mods for sure.
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