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Old December 2nd, 2008, 03:57 PM
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How many NAS diesel swaps do you think have been done?

I know there are a few on the board, and several listed on the ECR site...just wondering if anyone has any guesses.

I know RN sold a 300tdi kit a long time ago, was it popular?
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I have had 3 myself
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 08:42 PM
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I know there are a few on the board, and several listed on the ECR site...just wondering if anyone has any guesses.

I know RN sold a 300tdi kit a long time ago, was it popular?
RN stopped selling that almost right away because the EPA came knocking.
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50 based on nothing other than a pure guess.
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1,500?
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I think Ron's a little low, but 1500 is way high.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 12:26 AM
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I would say 200ish

One of my trucks was a Rovers North 300tdi kit. And I have to say that is/was one nice kit. If you could buy that now for the price it was then, I don't think they could keep them in stock. I still have bags of "genuine" Land Rover cable ties from the kit, I just couldn't find it in me to install a $15 dollar cable tie....or $2 dollar one for that matter.
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I would say 200ish

One of my trucks was a Rovers North 300tdi kit. And I have to say that is/was one nice kit. If you could buy that now for the price it was then, I don't think they could keep them in stock. I still have bags of "genuine" Land Rover cable ties from the kit, I just couldn't find it in me to install a $15 dollar cable tie....or $2 dollar one for that matter.
I wonder if the MD Engineering 2.8 TDi kit is as good as the old RN 300 TDi kit?
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I have many of the parts from the old RN kit, it is fabulous. The jumper harnesses that connect to the NAS harness are sweet, there is a drop-in replacement for the fuel pump, and it even has a stainless steel downpipe for the exhaust which connects right up to the NAS exhaust. I wish I had found it in time to use on the yellow truck, it would have saved me a lot of money.
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I it even has a stainless steel downpipe for the exhaust which connects right up to the NAS exhaust. I wish I had found it in time to use on the yellow truck, it would have saved me a lot of money.
That pipe was the down-fall of quite a few of those Tdi engines.
You can't mate the Tdi to the V8 muffler. Under load it has too much restriction and puts the EGTs through the roof. A number of those engines popped because of that pipe. The later set ups used all Tdi exhaust parts.

It was all great until RN and everyone (including me) who was listed on the back of the RN Tdi kit sales flyer as an "authorized installer" got letters and phone calls from the EPA telling us to quit it or else.
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So, I guess I'll either cut out the cat or ditch the pipe. Oh well. Its so pretty.
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So, I guess I'll either cut out the cat or ditch the pipe. Oh well. Its so pretty.
Use the head pipe, get rid of your V8 muffler with a piece of straight pipe. Plenty quiet, works great.
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Oh, its not the doubling up of the cat and muffler, its the V8 muffler itself which is the problem - got it.
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I wonder if the MD Engineering 2.8 TDi kit is as good as the old RN 300 TDi kit?
good point.... does anyone have a referral to a kit similar to what RN used to provide, stateside perhaps? i recall a few years ago seeing an operation in CN shipping them in from Brazil... not sure if they were quality or not.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 09:23 AM
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Steven Cahill was (and still may be?) bringing in 2.8's from the factory. They were not kits at all, but rather 2.8's with the LR-style flywheel housing (as opposed to the Ford-style housing).

The M&D kits are supposedly quite good, but someone like RyanS would have to pipe up to mention exactly what is included and how much custom work is involved.

The RN kit seemed to be as plug and play as these sorts of things get.
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The M&D kits are very good.
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I had a conversation with Canadian Steve a few years ago and he gave me the heebie jeebies. It is my understanding that he is no longer doing the drop ship to the US airport of your choice from brazil gig any more. It is not confirmed but that is what I heard.

And of course our buddy Creed reported to have a stockpile of 2.8 TGVs at his place. Also unconfirmed.

I would encourage interested parties to go the M&D route.
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Did you have to change engine mounts on the chassis for these kits?
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I had a conversation with Canadian Steve a few years ago and he gave me the heebie jeebies.

And of course our buddy Creed reported to have a stockpile of 2.8 TGVs at his place. Also unconfirmed
Do a search and find Pendy's thread with canadian Steve- its priceless.
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