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Old December 3rd, 2008, 01:48 PM
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I am about to pull the trigger on the M&D 2.8 TDi, but I am worried that it may be to slow for the D110 in rush hour traffic.
I drove a well sorted 300 TDi D110 last week, and it was ok once I got into 3rd gear. From a dead stop to 30 MPH it was to slow for me. If I can get that 2.8 to be similar to the 3.9 V-8 it will be gold.
I thought about the 4.6 route, but the diesel seems to fit the theme of these trucks better.
I grew up around diesels, so I know the drill.
I am not in it for the gas millage, just love the sound! (and tourque too)
How many NAS D110s out there with the 2.8???
Those of you that have driven the 2.8, how does it compare to the 3.9?
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 02:26 PM
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Here's a post from the for sale section with the kit you are looking at. Might be worthwhile to get first hand account if you are going to drop that kind of cheeeeeeeeeeeese.

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...light=110+sale
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Hey,

I'm in the same boat as you about diesels, I went over to England earlier this year with Pendy on a parts mission and ended up getting a 300tdi because it was pretty darn cheap. Right now it's being rebuilt, and since then I've since had the opportunity to drive both a 300tdi CT110 and a nas 110 with a 2.8. both finaly tuned, the biggest thing I came away with was, 1st they both were fine. The 300 seemed rather peaky, I attribute that to the turbo. it was either v8ish or 4cylnderish. the 2.8 was like a steam engine though very fluid through the revs. it wasn't much different from my v8 nas 110 v-8. If you are going for overall fuel economy & world traveling ability go for the 300, keep it under 65mph and get close to 25mpg. otherwise if you got the cash and are happy with 20ish by all means go for the 2.8, live with less parts support though. others I chatted with said the 300 had no problems speeding (flat ground) but suffered in fuel economy like down to 18, which is where most report a 2.8 being.

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Old December 3rd, 2008, 02:50 PM
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I don't know if this matters, but I think that the latest 2.8s do not have the glow plugs. Therefore, there is one less item to worry about. Correct me if I am wrong, but that may mean a higher compression.
I think that I will attach a pre-heater element in the air intake chamber to get a glow plug effect by heating the air during start ups.
Before I take the plunge I will most likely seek out another NAS 2.8 to test drive. This test drive may be worth a plane ticket and dinner for the one providing the test drive.
As far as MPGs, as long as it is better than the 3.9, its a go.
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I've got 2 300 tdi trucks ...

Mike will you be selling any of your SS exhaust setups for Tdi's in the near future. I need some..
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I have a 110 300 Tdi rear exhaust section new if anyone is in need. Pick up only.
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Found the thread I was referencing if anyone cares to read some old stuff

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ighlight=pendy

scroll down to when Pendy jumps in
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Originally Posted by d90-110
Hey,

I'm in the same boat as you about diesels, I went over to England earlier this year with Pendy on a parts mission and ended up getting a 300tdi because it was pretty darn cheap. Right now it's being rebuilt, and since then I've since had the opportunity to drive both a 300tdi CT110 and a nas 110 with a 2.8. both finaly tuned, the biggest thing I came away with was, 1st they both were fine. The 300 seemed rather peaky, I attribute that to the turbo. it was either v8ish or 4cylnderish. the 2.8 was like a steam engine though very fluid through the revs. it wasn't much different from my v8 nas 110 v-8. If you are going for overall fuel economy & world traveling ability go for the 300, keep it under 65mph and get close to 25mpg. otherwise if you got the cash and are happy with 20ish by all means go for the 2.8, live with less parts support though. others I chatted with said the 300 had no problems speeding (flat ground) but suffered in fuel economy like down to 18, which is where most report a 2.8 being.

Good luck, -Gustaf
What he said!

Jon,
As far as I know, there's only 3 NAS with 2.8's in the US. Ryan has an auto, I have a 5 speed, and can't remember who has the other.

you can test drive mine if you come down to NC, but you don't have much time. My 110 is here for another week and a half at fort bragg, then I'm home for the holidays, then I'm gone and the 110 is parked until 2010.
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Peter Carey has the 2.8 110 in Washington, also an auto I think. He was selling it, but I'm not sure if its sold. Its safe to say there's probably some more, since there is a whole bunch of enthusiasts that actually don't come to this site (odd as that may be!).
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David Marchand has a 2.8 in a NAS 97 Auto.
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Oh yes, I was just talking 110's. There are a number of 90's with the 2.8, but I would have to noodle for a while to think of 5.
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What he said!

Jon,
As far as I know, there's only 3 NAS with 2.8's in the US. Ryan has an auto, I have a 5 speed, and can't remember who has the other.

you can test drive mine if you come down to NC, but you don't have much time. My 110 is here for another week and a half at fort bragg, then I'm home for the holidays, then I'm gone and the 110 is parked until 2010.
Mark, how would you compare your 2.8 to the old 3.9?
In town, highway, and off road???
Thanks for the offer, but I am booked for the next two weeks...
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What issue would the EPA have with engine swaps? I'm missing something.

Does anyone have any experience with the M&D kit? This is my next big project and I'd like to tackle it by the summer.
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the best diesel engine I have had in any defender is the 3.9 isuzu unit that the austrailians use in their 6x6 army land rovers, 180+bhp loads of torque, ask paul clay, on this forum he has one. also this engine is sold in the US and fitted to isuzu trucks and carries a california epa compliance sticker.
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