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Old October 4th, 2007, 02:03 PM
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How long till we see these Off-Road?

Okay, so I think they are ugly personally, but that might just be the old fart in me talking. But in all seriousness, how long do you think it will be before the Michelin "Tweel" design moves into off-road competition? No Flats, but then again when the open sections get packed full of mud, snow or rocks, it might change the tires attributes a tad..

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/bown200...cbccdrcrd.html

http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/05/m...ire-and-wheel/

http://automedia.com/Future_Tire_is_...sm20050201mt/1

And look at how well this Audi can now take a curb
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Old October 4th, 2007, 04:09 PM
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Does this mean we are about to run out of air to fill tires with?

I mean are flat tires really that big of a problem or is this just a way to sell more tires?

It may be that the big wheel trend has been taken to its logical conclusion. No tire at all just wheel with a thin strip of rubber on the outside.

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Old October 4th, 2007, 04:37 PM
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I remember someone posting info about these a couple years ago on a BMW site I frequent and that was my first thought too...snow and ice would sure make them uncomfortable over bumps!
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Old October 4th, 2007, 05:19 PM
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I remember someone posting info about these a couple years ago on a BMW site I frequent and that was my first thought too...snow and ice would sure make them uncomfortable over bumps!
they would have to put in some kind of sidewall to prevent foreign debrie from getting inside before those would be street legal i bet!
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Can't put my spinners on those...
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They already have something like that for off road equipment. Some smaller stuff like bobcats use a similar idea and I remember seeing a company pushing an off road atv/light truck tire of similar concept some years ago, I think they where in the land down under.
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Isn't that similar to what they do when they armor vehicles too?
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They already have something like that for off road equipment. Some smaller stuff like bobcats use a similar idea and I remember seeing a company pushing an off road atv/light truck tire of similar concept some years ago, I think they where in the land down under.
I remember seeing that too back in the early 90s. They company was Australian and they also made a kit to convert pickups into half tracks.
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They already have something like that for off road equipment. Some smaller stuff like bobcats use a similar idea and I remember seeing a company pushing an off road atv/light truck tire of similar concept some years ago, I think they where in the land down under.
Yes, construction/heavy equipment industry has been using a variation on the technology for years. I'm thinking more along the lines of off-road racing, rock crawling competitions, etc. Seems like using this type of structure within a more conventional tire would make for a great run flat option?
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Those things will suck for rock crawling and sand. Won't be able to expand the floatation patch, nor would you be able to get any flex over rock.

I can see them on paved tracks pretty quick though if they are as good as the claims. No blowouts, no flat tires, no varying tire pressure. With all the concern regarding tire pressure systems these days, it may be cheaper and easier to make a car with these than to install a tire pressure monitor.

They probably will end up with sidewalls though. Too easy to pack stuff between the webbing, and they are also having problems at high speed with wind vibrations coming off them as well.
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