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Old April 15th, 2013, 10:31 PM
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http://www.dvidshub.net/video/286572...e#.UWy3FCvFSwV

The video doesn't make sense. "refurbished door hinges"... come on now.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 10:34 PM
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I like the "eAllegations" link at the end of the article. Somehow, I can picture a few folks here using it to target those "legitimate U.S. businesses that follow the law" affected by those illegal imports!
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Old April 16th, 2013, 12:11 AM
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The video doesn't make sense. "refurbished door hinges"... come on now.
If I were to guess it would be that the existence of things like new bolts as he's pointing out suggests new parts or swapped parts? That's not illegal of course but possibly an indication that they need to look harder at something?
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Old April 16th, 2013, 07:40 AM
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"ensure that unsafe vehicles from overseas markets do not reach our roadways.”

Never understood this... A rusty, leaky POS 25 years old is considered safe.

I fell safe already... Good Job C B P
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Old April 16th, 2013, 07:58 AM
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Yeah the safety angle is a hard pill to swallow. Sure, bring in that POS rust bucket with bad brakes and fluids dripping out of every orifice and we'll just give you a waiver! Good day to you sir, and don't worry we'll wipe up the drips once the smoke clears. Oh, you want to bring in a younger version of the exact same vehicle with a more refined drivetrain and interior improvements? Oh that can't be safe to have on the roads, and we can't have that!
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Old April 16th, 2013, 08:00 AM
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They should look at the "unsafe vehicles" in the domestic markets... Plenty of them around and most came from GM.

Or if they want to zero in on LR, how about the ticking time bomb in the form of oil cooler lines in NAS Defenders?!

A restored ROW defender with Puma seats, galvy frame, retrofitted SD cage and the simplicity of a TDi with no burning oil cooler lines is much safer! Of course as long as the door hinges are kept original!
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Old April 16th, 2013, 08:02 AM
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If I were to guess it would be that the existence of things like new bolts as he's pointing out suggests new parts or swapped parts? That's not illegal of course but possibly an indication that they need to look harder at something?
Exactly. Its like when I go and check out old MGs, either for myself or someone else. I always take a body work gauge magnet. If it doesnt stick as strongly in some places as it does others, I know I need to check it a little more thoroughly. Brand new, shiny bolts mean that something has been done and that some further checking is warranted. Its not hard to get bolts to lose their luster (muriatic acid for a couple of minutes).
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Old April 16th, 2013, 08:20 AM
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I wonder just how far this witch hunt will go. I wouldn't put it past NHTSA to search the US for all imported vehicles to "redetermine" if they are "safe". Govt has a lot of people doing bugger all everyday.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 08:24 AM
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Keep in mind B roll is just happiness on film; meaning it's not substantive-they aren't (or at least I'd suggest you should not) show you anything that actually ties directly to how they conduct investigations, so I wouldn't read too much into the film itself.

The fact that you're getting press releases though is definitely an indicator that the ROW import scene has hit the skyline (perhaps a bad use of words there...)

The safety thing, btw, is b/c most people aren't going to actively seek out some 25 + year old POS to put on the road-but if it was a 5 yr old Toyota Hilux and was cheaper than a Tacoma then all manner of people would stuff them in containers and bring them here (resulting in higher #'s of vehicles that didn't pass US safety standards on the roads).
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Old April 16th, 2013, 08:29 AM
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Understood and I agree Ray. Like emissions inspections I think the few that are old and problematic are a small fraction of the vehicles on the road so it's a waste. Still sucks.
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Pretty sure they were showing that the doors had been replaced...as they showed the lever action on the rear door, then the push button on the other door.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 08:55 AM
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Pretty sure they were showing that the doors had been replaced...as they showed the lever action on the rear door, then the push button on the other door.
rear doors are all lever , even brand new ones. Push buttons have been around since 88 so are age appropriate depending on the truck.
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Importation laws are not in place to protect consumers, or make sure cars are safe or any other BS like that. They are to protect US car makers, who paid good money for lobbying Congress. Glad to see chubby getting down and crawling under the thing. It looks suspicious to me too.

Ask someone from Boston about how good a job DHS is doing.
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Importation laws are not in place to protect consumers, or make sure cars are safe or any other BS like that. They are to protect US car makers, who paid good money for lobbying Congress. Glad to see chubby getting down and crawling under the thing. It looks suspicious to me too.

Ask someone from Boston about how good a job DHS is doing.
Do I feel a LRNA conspiracy coming on?
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Old April 16th, 2013, 09:45 AM
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Ask someone from Boston about how good a job DHS is doing.
Not quite sure what you mean by that.

As for Land Rover imports, those push button doors weren't introduced 25 years ago. That's an easy way of spotting modifications to the vehicle and encourages CBP a division of DHS to look a a particular vehicle further.
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Geez. 3 Land Rovers in one pic.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cbpphot...7633218266967/

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As for Land Rover imports, those push button doors weren't introduced 25 years ago.
I've seen quite a few push button doors on 1988 trucks

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=42910

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=43603

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=41419

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=26408

and Doug confirmed they were introduced in 1988; Math: 2013-1988 = 25
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As for Land Rover imports, those push button doors weren't introduced 25 years ago.
That's incorrect, push button doors - as Doug mentioned - started in '88. By my calculations...that's 25 years .
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Importation laws are not in place to protect consumers, or make sure cars are safe or any other BS like that. They are to protect US car makers, who paid good money for lobbying Congress.
This is the only reason why I think they care. If we were able to import what we wanted, we wouldn't be buying these locally. I don't see how these trucks present a safety hazard for others on the road. I'd be more worried about the a hole texting in their Suburban going 10 over.
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The green one is definitely an XJ. Not a Rover. The red one I believe to be more of a modern Wrangler based on how round the windscreen is.
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The green one is definitely an XJ. Not a Rover. The red one I believe to be more of a modern Wrangler based on how round the windscreen is.
You may be right now that I look at it again. It looked like a D2 snorkel and the D2 rims when I looked at it quickly.
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