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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:43 PM
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Exactly. The only person that will get hurt is the new owner. That person will be out both the vehicle and the money spent. It is not their fault and that is more or less the basis for this whole thread.....
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Old August 23rd, 2014, 10:51 AM
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Hello everyone
As many of you know, Will has undertaken representation of many Defender owners in an effort to recover the seized Defenders, as well as potentially affecting the way in which many of these laws governing imports and modifications are interpreted. He has elected to do so without compensation, and is consequently investing a tremendous amount of his time. Also, he is not setup to accept any donations that would go a long way toward offsetting this time away from his family.
So, after many discussions, we have determined it best to make donations to my wife's PP account, which will then be forwarded to Will's financial manager, aka his wife.
Please do not feel obligated to donate, but at the same time please realize what it would cost individually to defend such a case- much less at the level of urgency he has accomplished.

All that said, please make any and all donations to: rgknepp@gmail.com
Also, if you would like to make donations but do not use Paypal, feel free to PM or e-mail for other options.

Thanks to all!!
If you have not yet contributed to Will's wife's "rent a husband" fund to fill in while Will is spending large amounts of time on pro bono defender litigation, please consider it.
I look at this like helping another rover on the side of the trail. It's not my problem or responsibility, but why wouldn't I help in any way I can? I can't jump in and turn a wrench on this, but this is a way I can help.
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Old August 23rd, 2014, 12:46 PM
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Thanks Kraig for the reinforcement. Will is very appreciative of any donations or just plain thank you. However, while Will may not want me to post this, the total donated is less than $1k to date. And he worked 36 straight hours filing his last 55 page document- just writing/filing- no client conversations or accumulating individual vehicle data, no prep or legal finding, etc. Much less hard cost assimilating the required documentation from DMV, Heritage, etc.

Anyway, for what it is worth, Will is a great guy, and feels compelled to do this for the community- and we are quite lucky to have him on our side!!
Thanks my friend!!
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Old August 28th, 2014, 10:35 AM
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I have been sending money through also to Will through T-shirts and sticker purchased so keep them coming I have the shirts here ready to mail to you right now

Link below for shirts each one gives $10 dollars to Will

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...eferrerid=5811
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Old August 28th, 2014, 01:01 PM
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Thanks Jay- huge help!!!
And thanks to all who have participated!!
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Old August 30th, 2014, 05:41 AM
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Jeff is saying (incredible that it needs to be explained) that by posting those here all Customs has to do is pull up the import docs by VIN and go seize it. You guys are doing their jobs for them..
I think it stretches credulity to think that posting pictures here is that are taken from eBay, creates an opportunity for CBP.
Lee are public domain. So is eBay.

If anything, eBay is a much more useful tool than this forum to CBP and where I'd be to track down illegal immigrants.

eBay is a much richer target environment than we are.
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Old August 30th, 2014, 06:31 AM
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I have no idea if there is any truth to this, but a friend who is a state trooper claims that due to some political reason (like the democrats wanting to better position themselves for the next round of elections) that customs agents have been told to stop policing immigration violations and go after product violations. It would kind of explain how the agents have time for this kind of crap.
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Old August 30th, 2014, 08:34 AM
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That policy would be one way to curry favor with Corporations adversely affected by product fakes, for their donations to political fundraising, and with the immigration fan base for a certain political party.
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Old August 30th, 2014, 08:44 AM
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I think it stretches credulity to think that posting pictures here is that are taken from eBay, creates an opportunity for CBP.
Lee are public domain. So is eBay.

If anything, eBay is a much more useful tool than this forum to CBP and where I'd be to track down illegal immigrants.

eBay is a much richer target environment than we are.
The point was they missed it @ the border, and they follow this forum. Not that I understand even wanting an MG made in China.......
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Old August 30th, 2014, 08:49 AM
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The point was they missed it @ the border, and they follow this forum. Not that I understand even wanting an MG made in China.......
Ok I get it.

But all CBP needs to do to get more information, is a simple database search for all imported Land Rovers in their records would have given them much more data, including the importer, location and other relevant data including the vehicle address.

That would be a far better investigative tool than this forum.
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Old August 30th, 2014, 10:11 AM
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I will have to order a few shirts to help you guys.
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Old September 1st, 2014, 07:47 AM
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On a lighter note... I believe its Wills birthday today.. Happy birthday Will..
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Old September 1st, 2014, 01:19 PM
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On a lighter note... I believe its Wills birthday today.. Happy birthday Will..
Thanks Shayne! Having a pretty great day so far!
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Happy birthday Will, and thanks for your efforts!
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Repeal the 25 yr EPA law

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Sign this petition and lets see if democracy works.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...s-and/PhZ4RMgz
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Old September 1st, 2014, 09:31 PM
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All, Sign this petition and lets see if democracy works. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...s-and/PhZ4RMgz
You don't live in a democracy as more learned posters have pointed out in the past....
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...s-and/PhZ4RMgz[/QUOTE]

While I know this will go over like a fart in church in this thread, the petition is a bit off base.

First and foremost: there is no such thing as a 25 year ban.

The 25 year factor is an exception, it is a government provided loophole. The 25 year exception is to the requirement that all vehicles sold for use in the US must pass a litany of safety standards. If a vehicle is not subjected to testing or doesn't pass i cannot be sold for use on US roads. Simple.

Second: this petition is to the President. While I failed civics class in high school, I believe any modification to the existing exception (i.e. like opening it up to 35 years) would have to start at the legislative branch.

Third: W/o a lot of money or hardship at stake I cannot imagine any rep or senator giving this the time of day. Nor, in this day and age of tort litigation, I cannot imagine any politician signing up to ease automotive safety standards. Politically it would on par with authorizing 100 round magazines.

IMO the energy and hope behind the petition would be far better put at the doorstep of Land Rover encouraging them to make Defenders US safety compliant.
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Maybe we could get Nobama to like defenders.. Then he would just bypass all the legislative laws and loopholes and congressional approvals and we would be golden... Tell him the Islamic nation would be forever grateful..... Nah, I don't want his kind driving defenders..
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