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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:06 AM
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:09 AM
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Big day today. Thoughts and prayers appreciated.
I've been praying for you since Wednesday.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:13 AM
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:15 AM
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:33 AM
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:37 AM
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Willh,

I saw your post showing the quotes about DOT saying putting a new chassis in was OK. As with most things governmental here is the one that contradicts that:

http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/20962.ztv.html

"As we have advised in a long-standing series of interpretations, the mounting of a used body to a new chassis constitutes the manufacture of a new motor vehicle which must meet all FMVSS that apply as of the date of its assembly. The vehicle would also be titled with the year of its assembly. An entity that assembles a vehicle in this manner would be a "manufacturer" under our laws, and required to ensure compliance of the vehicle with all applicable Federal requirements including the VIN (49 CFR Part 565), and to certify compliance of the vehicle (49 CFR Part 567). For example, if you were to assemble this vehicle today, it would have to meet all currently applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards such as those that prescribe criteria that must be met in frontal and side impacts."

Hopefully yours will hold more weight and best of luck with everything.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:38 AM
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:53 AM
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Willh,

I saw your post showing the quotes about DOT saying putting a new chassis in was OK. As with most things governmental here is the one that contradicts that:

http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/20962.ztv.html

"As we have advised in a long-standing series of interpretations, the mounting of a used body to a new chassis constitutes the manufacture of a new motor vehicle which must meet all FMVSS that apply as of the date of its assembly. The vehicle would also be titled with the year of its assembly. An entity that assembles a vehicle in this manner would be a "manufacturer" under our laws, and required to ensure compliance of the vehicle with all applicable Federal requirements including the VIN (49 CFR Part 565), and to certify compliance of the vehicle (49 CFR Part 567). For example, if you were to assemble this vehicle today, it would have to meet all currently applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards such as those that prescribe criteria that must be met in frontal and side impacts."

Hopefully yours will hold more weight and best of luck with everything.
Mike:

The later letter to Roger Williams that Willh posted actually references the above letter/correspondence to John Harland (and that they did not allow Harland to import as he detailed under the 25-year-rule). However, since they point this out right in Roger's letter I'd say it doesn't contradict it, but rather acknowledges it. The difference being that Roger Williams wanted to retain the old/original chassis, and Harland wanted to use a new chassis.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:56 AM
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Mike:

The later letter to Roger Williams that Willh posted actually references the above letter/correspondence to John Harland (and that they did not allow Harland to import as he detailed under the 25-year-rule). However, since they point this out right in Roger's letter I'd say it doesn't contradict it, but rather acknowledges it. The difference being that Roger Williams wanted to retain the old/original chassis, and Harland wanted to use a new chassis.

I have to admit I have been "skimming" the thread, not reading in detail, so thanks for the clarification.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 09:22 AM
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Old July 21st, 2014, 09:50 AM
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"I'm amazed that this offended/ shocked/amazed no one other than Will and I.

The silence was deafening. " -Uncle Doug

I knew this immediately when the 110 was 'recovered' at the parent's home. I believe that far more of us fully understand the implications of the police state we live under due to over zealous federal agencies to militarized local police departments.... all for our own good, of course.
Having been employed by the gov't for the last 36 years provides me with a small window into the incredible levels of stupidity and arrogance of some people.... mostly those that have advanced to a level of power and grand paranoia that warrants conspiracy theories from the rest of us. Mind you I'm not even in an agency that is associated the 'Umbrella Corp' of Homeland Security but I've seen the general mode of operandi for longer than I care too.
As pointed out, there are mole(s) in the thread taking notes and adding fodder to justify more intrusion and to justify their gov't pay checks so the 'silence is golden' rule is probably warranted.

Ignore the above rant, Mr. Federal agent. I so love you guys and gals! I'm just trying to get this thread to the 1000 post mark.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 10:06 AM
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Willh,

I saw your post showing the quotes about DOT saying putting a new chassis in was OK. As with most things governmental here is the one that contradicts that:

http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/20962.ztv.html

"As we have advised in a long-standing series of interpretations, the mounting of a used body to a new chassis constitutes the manufacture of a new motor vehicle which must meet all FMVSS that apply as of the date of its assembly. The vehicle would also be titled with the year of its assembly. An entity that assembles a vehicle in this manner would be a "manufacturer" under our laws, and required to ensure compliance of the vehicle with all applicable Federal requirements including the VIN (49 CFR Part 565), and to certify compliance of the vehicle (49 CFR Part 567). For example, if you were to assemble this vehicle today, it would have to meet all currently applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards such as those that prescribe criteria that must be met in frontal and side impacts."

Hopefully yours will hold more weight and best of luck with everything.
Mike I think the focal point is that they consider the chassis to be the vehicle. Changing the body to a new one is fine per dot but changing the chassis under the original body isn't.
I have made Will fully aware that this is NOT how the law is being enforced. Customs has videos out there that they published of officers pointing out glass codes, stainless hardware, push button doors on earlier trucks etc. All moot points per DOT's published opinion letter.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 10:44 AM
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I sent in a build date request to the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust/ Heritage Motor Centre on Saturday and got a response today. I didn't expect it so fast.

Dear Mr XXXXX

Further to your enquiry the build date recorded for chassis number SALLDXXXXXXXXXXXXX is 4th June 1986.

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Best wishes today Will

Someone is trying to tell us something this song came on while I was posting.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 10:57 AM
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Old July 21st, 2014, 11:08 AM
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Old July 21st, 2014, 11:33 AM
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You may find this...... ironic, funny....I don't know.....something! But, I found out on Friday that the supervisor for the DHS Office here in Raleigh actually owns a Defender.

Get out of here! He might be one of us. That's creepy.

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Old July 21st, 2014, 11:45 AM
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Freakin told you!

Please remember this is my opinion...I'm not asking to have my head kicked in over this...

I'm surprised everyone is so surprised at all of this surveillance and monitoring and the like. If you think this is bad you'd slit your wrists if you knew what can really go on. A flight attendant can have someone arrested just like YOU can arrest someone...Agency's monitor all calls, wires, internet traffic etc...with the technology available...seriously, think about it. One time I was meeting a defender friend for the first time at his house so I Googled his addy...you know how I knew it was the right place? I saw the oil drips on his driveway from the Google map.

I'm not saying I agree or it's correct and proper behavior or that discussing it is wrong...this is all a good thing. People have to get angry for change. This have been going on longer than all of us...Hell even hand prints on cave walls is societal monitoring....

This is why Bill Larson owns a cave in Costa Rica that is part of a privately owned gated mountain community, with a lake in front of the cave that has fresh water sharks with laser beams on their heads.
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I sent in a build date request to the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust/ Heritage Motor Centre on Saturday and got a response today. I didn't expect it so fast.

Dear Mr XXXXX

Further to your enquiry the build date recorded for chassis number SALLDXXXXXXXXXXXXX is 4th June 1986.

Regards

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Told you guys this. They typically respond same day. The heritage certificate is worthless as I have said repeatedly unless you want something to hang on the wall. The 6gbp email is all that is needed.
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