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Old August 31st, 2011, 07:59 AM
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Merged these. Hardly a defender replacement IMO. Looks like a boxy freelander at best.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 08:01 AM
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Yeah....side view is not too bad.....maybe.
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Thankfully it's only a concept.
Yeah, but don't forget that Rover does not seem to stray too far from their concepts:

The production Evoque
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Old August 31st, 2011, 08:19 AM
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Honestly, this couldn't have been the ACTUAL concept? from Land Rover World.
That is a photoshop version of the old Bronco concept, made to look like a Defender concept form a few years ago.
I liked the Bronco concept, but the flat front won't pass Euro pedestrian impact laws, so whatever comes out is going to have that sloped nose like the DC100.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 08:25 AM
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I was thinking Mini Cooper with a lift...
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Old August 31st, 2011, 09:41 AM
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No surprise, as Mike said LR sticks with their concepts and this Defender looks about like what I have seen. My question is how will Tata deal with military and commercial vehicle sales. Will they spin off the current Defender line, create a mil spec version, or just drop it altogether.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 09:42 AM
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I don't understand that safety requirement. Wouldn't it be _safer_ to distribute the impact across a larger area like a flat front would do? Instead of folding the ped over the bumper into your hood?

I guess they want the folks to roll onto the hood and go through the windshield and join you in the cockpit.
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No surprise, as Mike said LR sticks with their concepts and this Defender looks about like what I have seen. My question is how will Tata deal with military and commercial vehicle sales. Will they spin off the current Defender line, create a mil spec version, or just drop it altogether.
Crystal ball says that real Defender production will be spun off to India or somewhere to meet production for other less regulated countries needs and the military. Those will not be available in the US or Europe. Parts will become cheaper (meaning crappy not less money). Sort of like the Series III and the Santana.

I've been wrong before though.
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Wonder if this sweet ride will be diesel
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Old August 31st, 2011, 10:36 AM
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I was thinking Mini Cooper with a lift...
True...but it does look kinda cool. wouldnt mind having one or both of my daughters drive one of those.
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Just give your kids a Series 1 instead.
It is just a concept, hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
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looks like a mini and an element mixed together!! yikes that is ugly
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Old August 31st, 2011, 11:31 AM
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The ribbed roof looks pretty sweet.
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Auto Express noted, power is likely to come from a range of new four cylinder petrol and diesel engines, all developed in-house at Land Rover.

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Old August 31st, 2011, 12:16 PM
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Looks like you guys are getting quoted: http://concrave.com/content/00142-la...erous-makeover
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Old August 31st, 2011, 12:41 PM
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Seriously:
Literally, looks like a combination of the Honda Element with a freelander (LR2) front end with a touch of Mini Cooper Club rear roof line. I am so disappointed. These folks sitting somewhere in a design room, and have no contact with their community. I would have rather seen it take a step back to Series III utilitarian status with no creature comforts than to abandon the design lines that made it so iconic.
When this thing hits, either you identify yourself as owning an early NAS Defender or be associated with a stink bomb look-alike vehicle.
At least when the Range Rover Sport was introduced, and the LR3, ... they still tried to hold true to some recognizable feature lines (i.e. the inward slope of the Sport was akin to the inward rear slope of the Range Rover Classic and the LR3 maintained some resemblance to the previous generations with the step up roof)
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Old August 31st, 2011, 12:59 PM
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That is ugly - looks like Toyota gave them the RAV 4 design. I understand the labor intensive construction cost with putting a Defender together but that proposed version is not an anchor vehicle to based your "off road" prowless on. I am sure than can come close to the original and cut down on production costs by a rear unibody construction and front subframe together along with a one piece molded bed and seat box together. That alone woud cut down on production cost. I also could see slanting the windshied rearward but keep the front flat and just add a bumper that gives it a sloping look and matches european specs but that we can then take off and put on a real bumper.

Like someone else posted and I hate so say this but the jeep has done a terrific job of redesigning that inferior hunk of metal. On a side note, does anyone remember the days that the Jeep Scramblers (long bed) were going for good money and FINALLY Jeep caught on that there was a market for new long bed jeeps and tada they were re-introduced.

I find it hard to believe that given the U.S. market value of 14 year old trucks that go for more used than new would be something you would walk away from.

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