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Old November 1st, 2011, 11:57 PM
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I'd love to see a series done up by Icon! That would be killer! He has some nice rigs for sale. I keep looking at some of the FJ62's he has.
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Old November 11th, 2011, 12:57 PM
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Old November 11th, 2011, 02:07 PM
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looks more realistic now - minus the gimmic headlights.
the B-pillar detail looks a little dumb with the 1/2 painted 1/2 black bit and the front and rear bumpers are still cluttered with kit.

i could probably live with it if it is simple inside (manual tranny, none of the BS from the orignal show truck in the electronics package, etc)

4 cyl turbo from the evoke/explorer - not a bad fit i guess.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 01:39 PM
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Hurl. Photoshop a mitsubishi badge on it and no one would look twice. These fools are just itching to ruin it. Save yourself the anxiety land rover. Kill off the defender, call this something else, rename the company, and just offer a bunch of crossovers. It's obvious management wants to go that way.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:59 AM
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This whole deal reminds me of the Toyota fj cruiser. All the die hard Toyota guys were pumped to hear Toyota was bringing back the fj40, then after the sema show they wished Toyota wasn't. But that didn't stop Toyota from selling it and it didn't stop the fj from being a popular car.

The blue one is starting to grow on me a bit. If they lose the freelancer front clip and use a lr4 clip it would look so much better. The yellow one is still garbage of course.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 07:14 PM
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There is an FJ here around the house that I see every once in a while. Black/Grey all over, no white roof, and it looks pretty cool actually. But I think that's after a few years for the design to sink in. I would still never buy one.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 08:27 PM
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What a riot that the Land Rover spokesmen specifically said how the Defender couldn't be just aimed at the California surfer crowd and that it needed to appeal to the Red Cross, Malawi, etc and the first opportunity they get they strap a surfboard onto it in LA. Hypocritical bozos.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 01:33 AM
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Old November 14th, 2011, 09:14 AM
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DC100 makes my eyes rain!
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Old November 14th, 2011, 11:28 AM
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Richard Wooley, the designer of the DC100, ... sees this concept as a “feedback tool” for both consumers and press.
...as we've seen this is completely false. I've yet to read any accolades expressed for the design of this concept...yet I recall an unveiling they did a month or so ago when Land Rover said they've seen soooooo much support for the new design, that they realized they had hit the nail on the head with this design concept. Complete and utter BS.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 06:52 PM
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Comments over on LRR from a forum member who got to talk to Richard Wooley himself.

http://www.lrrforums.com/showthread....0-LA-Auto-Show
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Old November 17th, 2011, 11:02 PM
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Old November 21st, 2011, 09:58 AM
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Did anyone else get selected for their North American focus group? I got a survey, then a follow up e-mail to join a focus group.

They are asking the right questions on the survey (such as "Do you think the DC100 should include modern electronics" and "The DC100 looks like it can do everything a Defender can"), I think they are getting the message. However, I don't know if it will make a difference.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 10:27 AM
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Did anyone else get selected for their North American focus group? I got a survey, then a follow up e-mail to join a focus group.

They are asking the right questions on the survey (such as "Do you think the DC100 should include modern electronics" and "The DC100 looks like it can do everything a Defender can"), I think they are getting the message. However, I don't know if it will make a difference.
I took the survey, but have not received a focus group survey. I did rip the sport model a little bit, but gave the SW a modest review.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 09:25 PM
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Well, Josh (crash303) and I took a day off from work and braved our way up into downtown LA to see the DC100 today at the LA Motor Show.

First off, a tip... DON'T go to that rip-off LA Live BS. We went to Yard House to eat lunch, thinking they were going to validate parking (since they talk about Validation at the lot). NOPE. Turns out pretty much no one there validates. That really pissed us off and set the tone for the rest of the day.

Anyway... we get into the show and immediately head towards Land Rover. Lots of LR4s, LR2s, Evoques, etc. Then you come across the 2 DC100s up on those spinning table deals, under the gleaming lights.

First impression was "Oh God they really did build this thing". Then immediately next was "Crap they are even lower to the ground than they looked in the pictures".

We walked around the dais and took some pictures, but I wanted to get up close and personal. So I went and found the LR rep working the floor, and just by chance a regional sales manager was there as well. We explained we were Defender owners from Land Rover Club of San Diego (we had our t-shirts on) and drove all the way up there just to see the DC100. She smiled and said sure we can go up and take a look.

So, a minute later we are up on the vehicle sized lazy suzan deal looking underneath, poking around inside, etc. So a BIG THANK YOU to whomever she was that gave us the nod to do that. I didn't catch her name.

I have put the pics in the LA Auto Show / SoCal HH thread.

So, impressions...

1) Yes it looks like the 3-way love child from an FJ Cruiser, Skoda Yeti, and Kia Soul.
2) It's very low to the ground, at least compared to what I think a Defender should be.
3) The interior does seem to support the wash/hose out idea. All synthetic materials that would clean up easy, no nooks and crannies to catch dirt, etc.
4) The "floating" seats that don't bracket to the floor are actually really cool. If they find a way to get that to pass crash tests it would be really awesome.
5) The top window over the cargo area has a solar panel to charge the batteries. One of the ladies there was trying to find a press kit for us, but mentioned she had heard the designers a few days earlier discussing secondary battery as an option.
6) Built-in tow/winch shackles are cool, but need to lose the orange.
7) The underchassis is a mess. Granted it's a concept, so I won't harp on it, but there is enough crap under there to get caught off-road it would be criminal to call it a Land Rover.
8) It appears that the tranny tunnel cover is removable via several large clips.
9) The top of the tranny tunnel is an induction charger, think those PowerMat deals. Since the plan is to have a sound system that's waterproof and no moving parts, it's nice if your iPhone 7 (or whatever it is by then) can just connect with bluetooth and charge just by throwing it into the center bin.
10) The induction strip goes all the way to the back, so you could put stuff back there and charge or power it, think lanterns, flashlights, coolers, radios, etc.
11) The orange and yellow highlights need to go.
12) The front is absolutely hideous and needs to go.

I won't even talk about the "DC100 Sport". It's dead to me.
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Old December 1st, 2011, 09:57 PM
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Just saw this new ad for the DC100. We are not the target market anymore.


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Old December 1st, 2011, 10:00 PM
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I'll buy a Kia Soul before I buy a DC-100.
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A new way to roll, yo.

What's funny is this commercial just came on tv as I was watching it on YouTube
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Old December 1st, 2011, 10:14 PM
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I'll buy a Kia Soul before I buy a DC-100.
BS. Kia Soul doesn't have sonar. It's all about the gadgets.

Bet the sonar ECU will kill the engine if the water depth is over 6". or maybe they will modify the smart parking technology to automatically through the tranny in reverse if an obstacle that is too large is sensed ahead of the DC100...like a curb or speed bump.
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