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Old November 19th, 2016, 09:54 PM
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Full size truck recommendations?

Does any one have any recommendations on a full size truck?

My only requirement is a full sized second row and leather After all my research and test drives all of the brand seems comparable. I was leaning towards the GMC Sierra, but I'm starting to favor the F150 although I'm suspect of the aluminum bed.

The truck would be my commuting car and the family's large car aside from the 110.
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Old November 19th, 2016, 10:18 PM
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I've got a 2016 F150 Lariat with the 502 package, 3.5 Ecoboost. Love it, has been a great truck. My boss has always been a GM guy and he has a 14 Silverado LTZ and wants to ride in my truck all the time. Bed has not been an issue.

What makes you question the bed strength? What are you planning to haul? Loaded metal toolboxes with sharp metal corners featured in the latest Chevy commercial?
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Old November 19th, 2016, 11:03 PM
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That is the exact setup that I had my eye on.

I don't plan on doing much if any towing. The most I would tow would be the 110 on a trailer. Other than had its firewood and home reno stuff.
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Old November 19th, 2016, 11:55 PM
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I have always been a Ford guy (have owned a dozen or so) but rented a Dodge Big Horn the other weekend for a trip and got 18 miles a gallon around town and 20 on the highway. A very nice comfortable truck and less money than the Ford or Chevy/GMC. Worth a look.
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Old November 20th, 2016, 12:20 AM
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1/2 ton ride in a GM is soft. Traded mine after 6-months. 3/4 was decent. I drove my new 3/4 for couple years then traded for something for my wife(diesel). I drive Rovers ....
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Old November 20th, 2016, 07:23 AM
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My employer provides me with a rental which I have to swap out every 5,000 miles. I have had numerous fords, dodges, and one chevy with the 5.3. I have had the fords with the 3.5 naturally aspirated (not enough engine in my opinion), 3.5 eco boost, and 5.0 V8. I have had several big horn ram 1500's and a 2500.

In my opinion, the new fords have the best fit/finish and are super quiet and comfortable. With the exception of the 3.5 N/A engine, the engines are good.

The dodge hemi V8 & transmission combo is the smoothest, most enjoyable of the bunch. The 1500 dodge also handles like a much smaller, more nimble vehicle. Just not as fancy and quiet inside as the ford. I'm in a 2500 right now and though I really like it, it is a behemoth to maneuver quickly.

The Chevrolet was my least favorite. Down on power and comfort though a good looking truck.

Just my 2 cents....I'm still more pleased every time I fire up my old RRC's Isuzu coal burner than when I get in a new truck!!
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Old November 20th, 2016, 07:56 AM
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How long do you plan to have it? I plan to keep mine for a long time, so I have a Tundra.
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Old November 20th, 2016, 08:55 AM
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So I'm a Ram guy (only due to Cummins), but the Rams are prolly the worst out of the big 5 right now (maintenance, repair, etc) that being said:

Go to pickuptrucks.com for in depth reviews and comparison tests...they skew Ford on the website but the results will surprise. Basically, for best all around 1/2 ton, the 6.2/8 speed package in the GM twins cannot be outclassed, especially with the optional Magnaride shocks. If you don't need to do much towing or payload, the 2.7 EcoBoost in the Ford is the best way to go for fuel economy, but it suffered heavily when loaded or pulling.

I've driven all three "domestics" extensively and some thoughts:

Ford rear seat in crew cab has a ton of wind noise
ECOBoosts feel peppy as get out but in real world numbers, the 6.2 is faster with better fuel econonmy when towing/loaded and very comparable when unloaded.
Ram interior is nicest, especially the Limited leather trim.
6.2 in Denali is a beast, does better in acceleration and fuel economy than 3.5 unloaded or loaded
The EcoBoosts suffer heavily when towing or loaded.
Tundra is long overdue for overhaul, worst performance out of all new trucks.
Rams are still unreliable.
New Titans are new.... New Cummins Titan is a fail...expensive with 1/2 ton capabilities and poor fuel Econ.
Ford will have the new uprated 3.5 out shortly. Might top the 6.2 in real world performance.

Vehicle reviews from us saps are pretty much useless in that we don't usually experience all packages in a model line, and we are biased from the get go. That's why an objective, mostly, with empirical data testing site like the one referenced above is invaluable. The, "I drove one a while back so now I'm positive that all Fords suck" thinking is pretty outdated with the amount of empirical data available. But obviously, if empirical data was what made men tick, there'd be a lot of neglected Defenders stateside.

And finally, we all know how much we love aluminum bodies around here, repair/maintenance wise.. am I right?!
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Old November 20th, 2016, 09:28 AM
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I drove a new Ram ecodiesel for 250 miles yesterday. Very impressed, it was in the limited trim. Very peppy plenty of power and drove much better the GMC my father traded for it.
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Old November 20th, 2016, 09:42 AM
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I used to own a Ford F250 w/ the Power Stroke engine. Drove it for about 5 years. It was nice and I had no major problems.

When it was time to replace it, a couple of friends told me to check out the Ram w/ the Cummins engine. I liked it and found one with the 5.9L HO engine. Bought it.

Drove it for apx 11 years and a little over 200K miles. Most of the time I was carrying a very heavy slide-in truck camper and sometimes towing a RRC. Preventive maintenance like oil, filter and fuel filter changed every 5K was, in my opinion, key to essentially a trouble free ownership. If I remember correctly, in 11 years I replaced 2 fuel pumps, 1 starter, clutch once and 2 water pumps. I don't own it anymore but I still see it once in a while on the highway pulling a 30 ft trailer loaded with hay.

If I ever buy another pick up again, it will be another diesel Ram.
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Old November 20th, 2016, 09:54 AM
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Out of curiosity, are there pickups anymore that cost less than a BMW? Like around $15k starting?
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Old November 20th, 2016, 10:14 AM
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The MSRP of the Ram ecodiesel was 62K. lol
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Old November 20th, 2016, 10:45 AM
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The sticker price of all the trucks were 45+. The used prices are only a few thousand less than new and around Boston have high miles.

My main issue is I can't really justify the full size but the smaller trucks like the Tacoma just don't have enough interior space in the second row once you throw a car seat in it.

The F150 feels like the best mixture of comfort and performance but they are priced high. I should have gone with 130 pick up.
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Old November 20th, 2016, 10:51 AM
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The MSRP of the Ram ecodiesel was 62K. lol
Diesel adds a lot to the price tag! On the other hand Ram's discounts are the best.

Chevy Colorado is probably the cheapest. After that it's a battle between FS and Taco/Ridgeline. Lots of respect for the Taco but I suffer Honda love.
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Old November 20th, 2016, 11:52 AM
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EcoDisels are slashed here...at least $10k. Two examples, one loaded with wheels, another lesser:



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out of curiosity, are there pickups anymore that cost less than a bmw? Like around $15k starting?


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[QUOTE="roverguy;802353"]I've got a 2016 F150 Lariat with the 502 package, 3.5 Ecoboost. Love it, has been a great truck. ^^^^^^ Same set up here and it's the best riding, driving and quietest truck I've owned.... Oh and the Ecoboost gets it done on both ends and economically
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Old November 20th, 2016, 03:31 PM
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Oh and the F150s are on fire sale around here as well. $10-15k off with 0% for 72 months.
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Old November 20th, 2016, 06:56 PM
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Must be an Idaho thing. Yesterday they said they could 3.5k off of the sticker and Ford financing was 3.9%. 1.5k off would get you 1.9% for 60 months or full sticker and 0% for 60 months.
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