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Old March 6th, 2012, 07:00 AM
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Free Prototype NAS Mesh Top Up for Grabs

We are working with a UK vendor to provide some new NAS products.

I have the first prototype NAS Mesh Top in hand. These are made from military grade rip stop mesh fabric that amazingly beads water droplets yet is still transparent. The top will block 60% of UV light while allowing for the open top feeling. The top does not impede vision and fits in under 5 minutes using the header bar / side rails and rubber bungee straps. No alterations to the truck are required. The mesh top can stay in place under the regular soft top when desired.

During the test fit, I would ask that all parts be fitted for a complete evaluation, but after the fact you can use one or all parts individually.

This is a prototype so we have found 3 issues that will change on the production run.

1. Add 30mm to the section that spans between the wind screen header bar and the B Hoop.
2. The eyelets will be black.
3. Remove 2 un-needed eyelets.

Includes a nice storage bag for proper stowage when not in use.

The only strings attached to the offer are that the top needs to go on as soon as received so we can get honest feedback quickly. This product will launch officially in May so time is of the essence. Unless you’re immune to cold weather it should go to someone in a warmer climate this time of year as to prevent frost bite while evaluating the top. If you live in Alaska sadly you can't have the free one.

This is posted in the general section as it is a free offer.

Please respond here if interested but please understand that I need honest and brutal feedback within 10 days to incorporate any changes into the production run.

Thanks and please let me know if you have any questions.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 07:14 AM
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I'd be interested it testing it on my 95 d90.

------ Follow up post added March 6th, 2012 07:17 AM ------

Coincidently I am planning on holding a photoshoot with my fresh washed 90 and could incorporate the top into the mix.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 07:18 AM
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Peter can you brave the cold to test it immediatly? We can't wait till warmer weather to make the May launch. We have to have brutally honest feedback (preferable via email) within a few days. I know you've had a great winter but come snow, cold, or rain we need an evaluation quickly.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 07:34 AM
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Cold is not an issue-I ride a motorcycle all year round. Plus our 10 forecast has highs in the 50's +.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 07:52 AM
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Spoke with a couple friends who are local D90 owners who are going to give there input.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 08:02 AM
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Looks like the header bar needs to be extended a few inches to the sides. Is it a rigid piece that fits in there that doesn't bend, and that's why it's not curved for the corners?

------ Follow up post added March 6th, 2012 08:08 AM ------

Also, it looks like you have the 5-bar snap rail above the doors - is it intended to be versatile enough for those with gutter kits?

Lastly, photos of the dash on that truck! Looks nuts.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 08:26 AM
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The slide trough bit is not rigid but the top is designed for both NAS spec and ROW header bars. The NAS Spec bar is longer than the ROW bar, hence the stop point of the current design.

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Looks like the header bar needs to be extended a few inches to the sides. Is it a rigid piece that fits in there that doesn't bend, and that's why it's not curved for the corners?

------ Follow up post added March 6th, 2012 08:08 AM ------

Also, it looks like you have the 5-bar snap rail above the doors - is it intended to be versatile enough for those with gutter kits?

Due to the bungee install it should also work with hard gutters but it would be nice to check. I don't have a hard gutter kit here at the moment.

Lastly, photos of the dash on that truck! Looks nuts.
Won't comment on the dash, one day I like and the next day it looks like a clean X box.

------ Follow up post added March 6th, 2012 08:29 AM ------

Peter you win. Call the shop and give Andre or Bryan your address and information so we can get it shipped. 407.517.4983

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Old March 6th, 2012, 08:36 AM
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Would you be selling the sections as individual units? Such as just the roof sections, etc?
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Old March 6th, 2012, 08:45 AM
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I'd be willing to do a long term test.

I'm willing to bet money that with the current cords you have securing the rear side section between the B and C pillars, that the belt rail flops out at highway speeds - especially over time as the elasticity of the cords starts to stretch a bunch. I'd suggest some nylon straps that you can REALLY secure tightly up to the Cantrails, as that section is the weakest point of the beltrail system along that section.

Also, no snap options for the '94 it looks like.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 09:00 AM
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Hey Stephen,

That looks great. Will you be making a 110 version? I have hoops from my 88 that I was going to put on the back of the 110 and make a suntop for it. Just need one long piece that goes from the front, over the hoops, to the back. No side pieces. I made one for my 88 out of Sunbrella material and it worked great to keep me cool in the Summer. Not so great in the torrential rains we get though.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 09:13 AM
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Looks great.

On a different note- what is the badge number on that truck? Any more photos of that Xbox dash?
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Old March 6th, 2012, 09:15 AM
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The bungees are some sort of marine grade straps so I have no fear that the tension will give on the belt rails but time will tell. I drove 70 and it hardly flapped at all.

Sorry no snap options at the moment but easy enough to add in.

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I'd be willing to do a long term test.

I'm willing to bet money that with the current cords you have securing the rear side section between the B and C pillars, that the belt rail flops out at highway speeds - especially over time as the elasticity of the cords starts to stretch a bunch. I'd suggest some nylon straps that you can REALLY secure tightly up to the Cantrails, as that section is the weakest point of the beltrail system along that section.

Also, no snap options for the '94 it looks like.
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looks good. i always wanted to make mesh windows for my best top. what a great idea sir.


ps.... i am still looking for some items. =)
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Old March 6th, 2012, 10:13 AM
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Awesome idea. I think that will be a good seller after you make those few improvements. I would love the uv protection under my Badger since I have the sunroof option. Sometimes it would be great to have a little shade in there.
If you don't mind, I'll pass your photos along to some fellow 90 owners who don't read the boards. I think they will love this product too.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 10:35 AM
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That looks like a great option for us during the summer. Keeps the sun off but the air rolling thru. Also we could still pop surfboards on top using the ST rollbars.
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If you want honest feedback from someone who has had every top - tickford, bestop, RN, badgers (and done write ups) I would be happy to put it on the day I get it and drive around in it for the full 10 days. I figure the 90mph cruising and 60 miles a day would be a sufficient test (ask 130tdi I drive like a maniac). Gas money over the VW tdi is probably more than the top would be to buy.

Also, there are a lot of little things to keep in mind (like the area around the b-pillar is smaller on a 1994 than on a 95/97) that can make a huge difference -- ie my 1994 RN top does not fit right on a 95/97. Not important for this design, but still.

Even if you don't want to send it to me, if Peter wants to stop by on his test runs, I will take a look.

My one suggestion looking at the pictures is why isn't the top panel one piece?
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I think the biggest concern would be chaffing/wear of the factory roll bar pads from the cords.

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This and sun damage is why I suggested the one piece top panel.
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This and sun damage is why I suggested the one piece top panel.
Do you even have a top installed on your 90 yet??
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Do you even have a top installed on your 90 yet??
He's using it as either a shower curtain or a table cloth
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