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Old October 29th, 2011, 01:33 PM
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Frame is solid means what?

Seller states "frame is solid". This is a term used frequently but tends to be a matter of opinion.
How do you define it?
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Old October 29th, 2011, 01:37 PM
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Not rusty enough to poke a screwdriver through.

------ Follow up post added October 29th, 2011 01:39 PM ------

If I was going to buy a truck that had a frame that looks like the one in the picture, I'd pretty much plan on a new frame.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 01:40 PM
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That looks like a new rear cross member was welded on with extensions. It also appears as though there is some rust bubbles sprayed over with waxyol.


If you can I would get under it and tap the frame with a hammer in various spots to look for soft spots.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 01:46 PM
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Not rusty enough to poke a screwdriver through.
That'd be my definition too, although it still leaves a lot interpretation, ie patches, bondo, etc
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if someone told me a frame "is solid" I wouls expect to hammer trouble known spots and feel or hear a very solid thud or ping in return.
no chipping or peeling observed no paint overs to cover spots and normal surface rust shall be expected as well.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 07:10 PM
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Ask to see more detail to the right of that area
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you ask and you shall receive, yes po put on a new rear cross member so obviously the old one was shit, and here is a few more pics, old original frame but far from needing a swap as Bill suspects. found one patch on an outrigger but other than that nothing visible, asking price is in the 12s for a 200tdi with and lt77.
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new rear xmember a decent done job (not a hack saw and patch). rest of frame seems to be a decent eye pleaser as well.
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new rear xmember a decent done job (not a hack saw and patch). rest of frame seems to be a decent eye pleaser as well.
I was simply interested in others opinions of what this term could mean as it is used all the time and thought the photo could be used as an example. I classify a frame as new, or original (unwelded), or repaired. I personally would not refer to a crossmember replacement installed in that fashion with welds that looked like that as solid. In my line of work a weld must pass an inspectors visual test before they will even test it structurally. The rest of the frame however does look pretty good.
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