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Old October 8th, 2007, 11:17 AM
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Old July 8th, 2016, 09:57 PM
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FIVE in a 90?

Hi,

My wife and I have two sons (7 and 9), and a daughter (2). Everyone loves the Defender. But it only has 4 seats. It is a 1995 and I have the factory bench seat in the back.

So I don't plan to do anything now, but in the future it might be fun to be able to take the whole family on a short drive somewhere.

I know you can put 4 seats that fold up sideways, where everyone faces inward. I have thought about that. It seems I do mostly short, local trips in the Defender. That set up with be nice, and we could even take an 6th person that way. But I feel like I have read where people say this setup is not nearly as safe as facing forward. True?

Questions:
1) Can you pull the center box, and put a 3rd seat up front for when 5 are in the car? I guess that person could have feet in the passenger well. And I guess a lap seatbelt?

2) Do they make a bench seat that can sit 3 across (knowing that all three would have to share leg space in the middle).

Just curious what people have done?

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Old July 8th, 2016, 10:37 PM
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ROW trucks come with a third seat in the front where the cubby goes. I'm sure you can pick one up cheap. I might have one in a couple weeks.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 10:45 PM
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Yes. I seat 7. Just not well ;-)

Jump seats are great for short trips and I have the middle seat up front (only good for someone with little or really nice legs ;-) ) It kills the cubby, but I modified it to fold down, and be an armrest, when not in use.

Forward facing anything (lock and folds or the bench) is always safer than carrying the troops sideways, but safety really is a relative term in a Defender, even with full NAS or SD exo cages.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 10:57 PM
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In some states you must be 8 to sit in anything but forward facing seats. I have three girls, 3, 5, and 7. I plan on mounting a tahoe third row seat. It has incorporated shoulder belts.

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Old July 8th, 2016, 11:12 PM
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In some states you must be 8 to sit in anything but forward facing seats. I have three girls, 3, 5, and 7. I plan on mounting a tahoe third row seat. It has incorporated shoulder belts.
Would like to see pics when you install the Tahoe seats. The integrated belts just seem more secure.

As for inward facing, I just looked into this and my state won't allow child seats in them. And here kids are in child seats to 80lbs. At this rate my kids will be in car seats until high school.

Josh: will you post a pic of your middle seat?

------ Follow up post added July 8th, 2016 11:15 PM ------

Josh: will you post a pic of your middle seat?[/QUOTE]

My mistake, David. Can you post a pic of the middle seat?
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Old July 8th, 2016, 11:24 PM
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I would if I could. Don't already have one on my phone, I'm in BC, and the truck is in Portland, OR. Here is a pic of a row setup just like mine. Save that my seats are in a ST and are consequently all black vinyl! (I never thought I would be into that! ;-))
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Old July 9th, 2016, 12:52 AM
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I've got a center seat I'm sure I'll never use, but the things don't fold. So shipping would be a complete suck.
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I've seen a couple of people modify a D2 bench seat to fit in the back of a NAS, which fits 3 across. It sits a little higher up than the factory bench seat (because it wraps up onto the tub). But when done right looks surprisingly good, and obviously gets the job done.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:20 AM
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Flagg:

I've seen a couple of people modify a D2 bench seat to fit in the back of a NAS, which fits 3 across. It sits a little higher up than the factory bench seat (because it wraps up onto the tub). But when done right looks surprisingly good, and obviously gets the job done.
yeah, I saw Joe's at the HH in May...not bad.


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Old July 9th, 2016, 09:17 AM
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7, 9, and 2 year kids don't stay the same size forever so think ahead. I've raised three kids and countless neighbor's kids in my 90 with 4 jumps. Fold them up/down quickly to use the back for hauling stuff or making leg room as the grow.

Note from an old guy with kids now in the early 20's and teens: As they grow and get older they go in different directions so it is rare that all three will be back there at the same time in a few years.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 09:37 AM
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Agree with you that they'll quickly outgrow the fold down set up. Heck in seven years the 9 year old will drive it to School.

Very few 90's have kept their fold down seat in place. That's testament to how poor an idea it was.
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Will never forget the day my kids refused to ride in the nas 90 jump seats anymore. Forced me to buy a 110 they did
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Old July 9th, 2016, 11:25 AM
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Will never forget the day my kids refused to ride in the nas 90 jump seats anymore. Forced me to buy a 110 they did
Did you have to bandage all those twist marks on your arm? ;-)
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Old July 9th, 2016, 12:04 PM
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How big a kid can sit in NAS tumbling bench seat is regulated by the capacity of the seat belts. My 110 lb 13 yr old can barely buckle himself in. The harness is too tight. Moving to the longer Y-female harness from a D-1 should solve this issue.
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Can you add 2 jump seats in front of the bench?
Everyone may be knocking knees, but may be ok for the kids


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Can you add 2 jump seats in front of the bench? Everyone may be knocking knees, but may be ok for the kids .
They'd overlap and the jumps wouldn't be able to fold down all the way.
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Just buy an FJ60 or FJ62 for the fun five person outings and save the 90 for short small group outings. Way cheaper than anything else you're thinking of doing. I'm guessing you have another vehicle or two already. I just wouldn't sweat it. This will only be a problem for a short period of time in the grand scheme of life.
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Old July 10th, 2016, 10:19 AM
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I upgraded from the bench to jump seats for my 95 ST. Have 2 boys 7 and 10 years old. They love them and now they can get in and out of truck easily through the back door. Also have room for some gear now with 2 seats folded. Major upgrade! Not sure about safety but I try at all costs to avoid the highway with them in the back. Not worth it. Great around town.
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