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Old November 9th, 2013, 06:33 PM
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First drive 110 after a year

So, today I buttoned up the wiring, put the correct harness on the distributor(instead of the home made crap I came up with) filled the coolant up and installed the grill surround.

I tried to fire it and she wouldn't start. Figured out the new wiring to the dizzy was backwards. Swapped that and she rumbled to life. So I let it idle while I watched everything. Noticed a small coolant leak at the back of the intake manifold and before my eyes it turned into a gush of coolant. I shut it down and looked realizing I forgot to tighten the hose clamp... well crap lol, so I tightened that down, cleaned up all the tools and tried to shut the hood. Can't quite get it to latch so I'll need to do some alignment work there tomorrow. It latched on the secondary and the anti theft latch so....

I climbed in put her in reverse and backed it out of the drive. I put her in first and rolled down the drive into the street. I ran her up the rpm range, hit second, and in third I gave it the beans and I have one thing to say.....

A crane cam, holley 4 barrel edelbrock manifold on a 3.9 is the cats ass! She took off like I have never experienced in my 110. I have to add hearing a V8 rumble is a very missed sound in my life.

I have a few thank you's to put out there. PTSchram for some great advice and reminding my dumb ass I forgot to order a pilot bearing and then getting me one quickly.

Justin at www.lucky8llc.com for getting me the bulk of my parts at a great price and extremely quickly. A lot of people don't know that he does stock parts as well. Gaskets, clutches, radiator he can get it all. Soon it will be time to start ordering some suspension bits.



She's alive and should be all buttoned up and ready to resume her daily drive duties by tuesday.

Need to adjust the timing and the carb tomorrow but she's running pretty darn good!
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Old November 9th, 2013, 07:35 PM
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Old November 9th, 2013, 08:26 PM
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Old November 9th, 2013, 08:32 PM
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Old November 9th, 2013, 09:20 PM
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No she was happy to see it run again....


Unfortunately I am now waiting for a tow truck. FML....

Something electrical seems ti have shit the bed
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Old November 9th, 2013, 09:35 PM
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Damn good read up until that last post. Enjoy your weekend and thank you for your service.
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Old November 9th, 2013, 09:39 PM
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awww no f'in way!
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Old November 9th, 2013, 10:43 PM
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Electrical fire on the wiring bundle going to the front of the motor.....





------ Follow up post added November 9th, 2013 11:46 PM ------

Which explains a bit of weird warning lights right before it went to hell on me.

------ Follow up post added November 9th, 2013 11:48 PM ------

I'm thinking I didn't get something right on the alternator wiring or something was bad there. Shit!

------ Follow up post added November 9th, 2013 11:49 PM ------

oh and Daryl and Daryl were my tow truck drivers

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Damn good read up until that last post. Enjoy your weekend and thank you for your service.

I thought it was to up until I went for coffee.....


Thanks I appreciate the support!
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Old November 9th, 2013, 11:19 PM
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Anyone recommend a good exorcist?
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Old November 10th, 2013, 02:51 AM
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I recommend invoking Lucas, the Prince of Darkness who attracts all evil forces like a Black Hole.
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Old November 10th, 2013, 03:15 AM
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Did the wires rub and short out?
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Oh man! Sorry to see this.
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Old November 10th, 2013, 08:02 AM
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Aren't those wires supposed to run inside of the down pipe along the block so they don't rub or burn on the downpipe ?
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Old November 10th, 2013, 08:55 AM
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You've found the hidden feature of the electrical system.
Fortunately the wiring harness appears to be the only casualty. Count your lucky stars. A replacement harness is about $500.
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You've found the hidden feature of the electrical system.
Fortunately the wiring harness appears to be the only casualty. Count your lucky stars. A replacement harness is about $500.


It's only a bit burnt, I'd be unpicking that bit of the loom first and seeing how much burnt, then splicing in some new wire, soldered and heat shrunk insulation - good to go.
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Might as well throw a silicone sleeve over it if you can't reroute it further away from the exhaust.
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X 2. It can really go bad quickly with haunted wireing. 4 months of worked/didn't work kinda worked only to discover melted harness inside frame rail that occasionally grounded to frame pending size of bump going over.



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It's only a bit burnt, I'd be unpicking that bit of the loom first and seeing how much burnt, then splicing in some new wire, soldered and heat shrunk insulation - good to go.
I think that's a fool's errand, but you know my stylo, which is to toss anything questionable and replace it.
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Old November 10th, 2013, 11:38 AM
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Did the wires rub and short out?
Going to start the postmortem as soon as I finish my eggs and bacon.

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Aren't those wires supposed to run inside of the down pipe along the block so they don't rub or burn on the downpipe ?
No idea i just left the routing were it was before the swap.

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You've found the hidden feature of the electrical system.
Fortunately the wiring harness appears to be the only casualty. Count your lucky stars. A replacement harness is about $500.
I'll rebuild the harness myself, before dropping $500 on it. The wife is already referring to my MGB as the reliable car...


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It's only a bit burnt, I'd be unpicking that bit of the loom first and seeing how much burnt, then splicing in some new wire, soldered and heat shrunk insulation - good to go.
I'm with you

The real question in my mind is what caused it? I want to make sure in my mind that it was the manifold burning through that caused the short. I'd hate to rebuild the harness and have it happen again.
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Old November 10th, 2013, 02:08 PM
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Ok postmortem:

Looks like the harness rubbed against the exhaust manifold and melted then shorted out. Wiring seems alright a few inches in either direction of the melt down.

I'm going to cut it about 8 inches back from the melt down and run new wire to the different components and hope that nothing got burned up, like the alternator, ignition module or sensors.

I've looked at the routing and I think it would be pretty easy to re-route it across the top of the motor along the manifold or along the outside edge of the frame rail.
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