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Old January 31st, 2006, 10:50 PM
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fire damaged D90 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ADME:B:EF:US:1

look like a project for anyone?
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Old January 31st, 2006, 10:58 PM
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I emailed the seller whos in Atlanta like I am and he said I could only look at it if I were the high bidder. Not to mention the fact they're asking 13,500 for a truck with unknown mileage and looks thoroughly messed up you would think you could inspect it. www.maxcar.net It would be a cool project but don't think the price is totally justified
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Old January 31st, 2006, 11:22 PM
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It used to belong to a buddy of mine, John Brafford, who had a new 4.0 put in it at a dealership. He told me that it developed an overheating problem and it caught fire while the dealership was driving it. It has ~175K on it. Man, it was a cool truck though.

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Old February 1st, 2006, 12:00 AM
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Whats the deal with the interior behind the front seats? Is it some sort of storage box or something?
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Old February 1st, 2006, 12:45 AM
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I emailed the seller whos in Atlanta like I am and he said I could only look at it if I were the high bidder. Not to mention the fact they're asking 13,500 for a truck with unknown mileage and looks thoroughly messed up you would think you could inspect it. www.maxcar.net It would be a cool project but don't think the price is totally justified



Run Away! Run Away!

The only way you can inspect it is if you are the high bidder!!!

Something seems suspicious....
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Old February 1st, 2006, 01:09 AM
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Seems suspicious to me....I would part that thing out, hes got the rack, the tires, wheels, bumper, winch, and lights.....

I think ill ask him some questions about it just for sh*ts and giggles

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www.maxcar.net It would be a cool project but don't think the price is totally justified
Theres a few cool looking projects on there...One is that 110 in the lower left hand corner, but of course you can't see pictures of it before you buy it....From that one pic it doesnt' look to terribly bad but i couldn't find any information on it....
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Old February 1st, 2006, 09:17 AM
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Whats the deal with the interior behind the front seats? Is it some sort of storage box or something?
He had a pretty slick storage setup in the back of it, yes. John is the guy you always wanted on the trail with you because if you needed someting it was tucked away in that truck somehwere...that thing probably weighted 10k.

If the guy who has it now knew anything about what was on it, he might actually sell it. That truck has, or at least had ARBs, some GBR drivetrain parts, ect.

I agree, very sketchy if you have to buy it before you can see it.

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Old February 1st, 2006, 11:31 AM
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I asked him if I could come look at it and he said "will be here friday"

Seems a little suspicious to me.....
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Old February 1st, 2006, 11:42 AM
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Just for fun, what do you guys imagine it would take to get something like that in good shape. I don't mean an off-road beater. I guess there are a lot of unknowns. Let's assume the fire didn't warp the bulkhead, with the body largely salvageable.

I can't imagine getting that thing back to normal for less than $25k in work. Real paint job, new engine and ancillories, hvac, wiring, interior, etc. That $13,5k price is ridiculous for a rebuild, but possibly not for parts. You could end up with a $40 to 50k in that vehicle fast.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 11:59 AM
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Before I bought my 90, I was toying with idea of buying one that was damaged and fixing it up. I found that website and contacted them about one of their damaged 90's. They had one that was completely burned out and they still wanted $5k for it. They also had an arles blue soft top that was smashed in the rear for $11k. I don't know what happened to it but niether are on there anymore.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 02:50 PM
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Just for fun, what do you guys imagine it would take to get something like that in good shape. I don't mean an off-road beater. I guess there are a lot of unknowns. Let's assume the fire didn't warp the bulkhead, with the body largely salvageable.

I can't imagine getting that thing back to normal for less than $25k in work. Real paint job, new engine and ancillories, hvac, wiring, interior, etc. That $13,5k price is ridiculous for a rebuild, but possibly not for parts. You could end up with a $40 to 50k in that vehicle fast.
Only if you are paying someone to do that work.

Too many dependancies without knowing the condition. But if only an engine, dash and paint, I'd say around $10K needed in parts (entire engine). No trans or tc.

Ernie, both of those 90's sold. Their turnover is pretty quick. What I've heard (which means nothing) was they were purchsed for some illegal vin swappage to 110's. But who really knows...
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Old February 1st, 2006, 03:15 PM
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so...
how illegal is it, David?

Would it be illegal to pull the entire bulkhead from a 90 and stick it in a 110?

(not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just curious)

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Old February 1st, 2006, 03:36 PM
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That's a rhetorical question I guess? Is a d-110 with a d-90 vin, a d-90?
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Old February 1st, 2006, 04:33 PM
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My guess is it would just be a streched d90.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 04:37 PM
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he he he.... I don't know for sure.

If I decided to change my gmc pickup bed length from a 6' bed to a 8' bed 'cause I was in an accident which ruined my bed, and I couldn't readily find another 6' bed but had an 8' bed laying around....

I might have to change my wheelbase length but I don't think the motor vehicle department would know or care.

Just a theoretical question, mind you.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 05:21 PM
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That's a rhetorical question I guess? Is a d-110 with a d-90 vin, a d-90?

I think it is a d110 with an illegal VIN... From what I understand of the law, mind you I'm no barrister... Is that you can use a vin and parts from the donor vehicle if you are legitimately rebuilding the truck, and have all the reciepts for parts etc. I don't think a reciept for a body shell and chassis necessarily qualifies for that. but then again I have seen people do it.

It is a big risk to take swapping vins and calling it a rebuild. But to each his own so to speak.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 05:43 PM
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Well,
They stretch limosines, so why cant you stretch a Defender? I am working on a TDI conversion for a customer. I have a good used 3.9 with computer/harnass/air cleaner/radiator/floor pans/transmission tunnel/etc., that my customer would like to sell. If anyone here bites on the fire damaged one, I have a substantial amount of the parts that would be required to fix it and they can be had pretty right. There was also a new TD5 bulkhead on ebay. It was being sold by Britanica Restorations in Canada. I think the biggest hurdle would be the dash and main wiring harnass. it wouldn't be a cheap repair, but with enough secondhand parts and your own labor you could probably buy it and fix it and not be upside down if you decided to sell it.

Also,
I met John Brafford a couple of years ago in Moab during one of Bill Burkes events. He blew a rear 4.11 diff before the event and Bill at GBR was kind enough to bring a spare ring and pinion set which we set up and installed in the hotel parking lot(in the rain!)...so unless he changed setups, that truck probably still has the 4.11s and ARBs.
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Old February 2nd, 2006, 11:03 AM
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I also have many of the parts left from diesel conversions that would help bring this one back. wiring harnesses plastic parts etc...

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