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Old May 20th, 2006, 07:22 PM
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fill that tank with water not GAS!!

www.wcbp.net/movies/waterfuel.wmv


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Old May 20th, 2006, 09:35 PM
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oh man firefox threw a hissy fit trying to let me see that site, at least three different warnings about it's certificate and domain name.

in the end it dumped me at a login in prompt...
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Old May 20th, 2006, 11:32 PM
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no luck either
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Old May 21st, 2006, 12:19 PM
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looks like this is it http://www.wcbp.net/movies/waterfuel.wmv
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if thats real then i have a few bridges for sale...

i wonder what some of the other not talked about byproducts are...
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Im pretty sure that his engine just does the hydrolysis in the vehicle and makes it a hydrogen car. I dont really know how it works, but it would save on storing and shipping pure hydrogen. Not a bad idea depending on the energy required to break the water molecule.
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I have the .wav file... tried to load it but it was over the 2MB limit. Email me at swold@pbcx.com if you would like me to send it to you.

The video is from a local news report. It could have been doctored, but it looks pretty cool.

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Old May 22nd, 2006, 10:16 AM
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Im pretty sure that his engine just does the hydrolysis in the vehicle and makes it a hydrogen car. I dont really know how it works, but it would save on storing and shipping pure hydrogen. Not a bad idea depending on the energy required to break the water molecule.
That's the thing, most of the time it takes an outrageous amount of energy to split water molecules to H2 and O2 compared to the energy you get out, you generally don't get out what you put in. I have read about his way of doing it, and I don't know how it works yet, but he seems to be using a lot less electricity to break apart the molecule and he is getting quite a bit out. One clarification though, he is not using the hydrogen like hydrogen fuel cell cars do. (the ones you generally hear about) This guy is using the water derivative (whether it's pure hydrogen or an intermediate of the electrolysis I don't know) as a combustible fuel and pumping that into the cylinders. I have looked into his technology before, but there's nothing concrete about how it works yet because he's trying to keep it under wraps until his patents come through apparently.


BTW tkavan01, I'll take the bridges you're selling if you'll take my ocean front Arizona property... :D
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:47 AM
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The important point to remember here, though, centers upon how much energy is needed to turn water into a fuel source. Water, itself, is not fuel. Energy must convert it into something different. Relying upon electricity to handle this masks the true cost. Frequently, more total energy is expended in such technologies than comparable means. Sort of like when the process to recycle consumes more energy and resources than to make from raw material. There is no free lunch here. You will not simply pour water into a car and drive.
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:58 AM
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so if the price is more and we are doing better by the envirnment it is not worth it?

i think if we can do good things for the earth, weather recycling or whatever it might be helps everyone? we should take care of the earth, it is our duty or the earth will take care of us!
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 12:04 PM
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while that is true Steven, what he is saying is that it takes more ENERGY to recycle and to produce the hydrogen. So you have to take into account where that energy is coming from. If the energy is coming through the power lines to your house or power lines to a recycling facility here in the US, then it is most likely coming from coal in the long run which is very dirty and bad for the environment. So I think what he's saying is you have to look at the whole picture.
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