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Fat Bikes, who has one?

I went a couple of weeks ago to the Sea Otter Classic bike event in Monterey. The full suspension fat bikes have captured my imagination. I test rode a King Khan by Turner($5.5k) and some others all around the same price range. The one I really liked besides the King was the Rocky Mountain Sherpa, while not a true fat bike with 27.5+ tires it looked nice in a cool(to me) paint job and a go anywhere...true Land Rover style...attitude.

So if you have one(fat bike) how do you like it?

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Old May 2nd, 2015, 05:09 PM
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They're amazing. Been riding them for about 5 years now.

If you ride them in snow I would say suspension is overkill and can be unreliable in the cold. As spring/summer/fall bike a fork or full sus might be nice.

I'm currently riding a 9zero7 one of the best handling fatbikes I've ridden.
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I have a surly moonlander - lots of fun. Honestly, I am not in love with it yet. Wasn't as foolproof in the snow as I thought, and is tougher to wrangle on technical trails.

I am going to give it another month or so then may consider selling and will just go back to my old hardtail carbon racer boy bike.

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Old May 2nd, 2015, 09:44 PM
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Get some smaller low profile tread tires for the dirt. Those huge knobs will pull you all over the place on technical dirt trails. You might like it better.
I use mine primarily in winter. Also the Surly's while capable are not fast handing bikes (I rode one for two years). The 9zero7 was a completely different riding machine.
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Surly has created true trail bike geometries in the Krampus (29+) and Ice Cream Trucker compared to the moonlander and the pugs.

I have an ICT with 4.8s for snow and sand and a Moots now with the bluto fork for 29+ summer fun.
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The krampus is a blast to ride on the trails! I've yet to try the ICT but it certainly sounds like an interesting option.
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I want one but can't justify it. It would forever be too much bike for me.
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I think they are ridiculous.
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A friend is trying to get me a bro deal on a Kona Wo.

KONA BIKES | 2015 BIKES | FREERANGE | WO

Has a decent build and I wanted 190mm rear spacing. Hopefully it comes through as that will keep me from eyeballing ti frames and building it myself. Do not want too much money in a fat bike.

As much as I dislike the company due to past experience with frame warranty, the Specialized FatBoy/Fatboy Experts are pretty damn good bikes.
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A friend is trying to get me a bro deal on a Kona Wo. KONA BIKES | 2015 BIKES | FREERANGE | WO Has a decent build and I wanted 190mm rear spacing. Hopefully it comes through as that will keep me from eyeballing ti frames and building it myself. Do not want too much money in a fat bike. As much as I dislike the company due to past experience with frame warranty, the Specialized FatBoy/Fatboy Experts are pretty damn good bikes.
I have an old Kona Lava Dome mountain bike and I love it. So I would think just about anything they turn out would be quality.

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I think they are ridiculous.
When I first saw one in Walmart, my first thought was some sort of Latino fad. They seem to like extreme things. First tiny wire spoke wheels on Chevy pickups. Then 22s. And elbow swangers.
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I think they are ridiculous.
I agree - feel like they are a novelty. I know guys say they are great for the beach or for snow but I am not looking to ride if I am on the beach and rather go play hockey or snowboard when there is snow.

I really don't get the guys that ride them on good old trails. With modern geometry, suspension and tires/wheels sizes why ride something so heavy feeling?
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I have to add - I looked at the Sherpa and like the theory of the 650b+ tires (2.8-3.0). Have to say it's a cool looking bike.

Wish there was a 26+ tire option. I'd love a 26x2.8 that didn't weigh a ton.
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I think they are here to stay. I was riding my singlespeed 29er (the fad bike of five years ago) on some local trails the other day and came across a guy riding a full custom fat, carbon wheels etc, that weighs in the region of 24lbs. We stopped and bs'd for a while; he races it cross country, does bike packing trips and can keep up with many of his full sus' riding friends on all but the gnarliest of descents.

I don't see one in my near future as my SS puts a smile on my face just sitting still but I would happily own a Jeff Jones or Specialized Fat Boy.
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I would agree they do appear as a fad. However I think that is largely driven by the bike industry who is desperately trying to grasp at whatever they can. I can't remember the stats exactly, but the number of bikes sold yearly really doesn't increase, so to grow your business you need to take sales from your competitors, and you certainly don't want to be left behind. I would imagine that things will quiet down in a few years once the market is supersaturated with product.
From a riders perspective you either like it or don't. I think location has a lot to do with it, areas with huge snowfall probably won't like them unless they have groomed trails as they're useless in super deep snow.
In Ottawa we have big shoulder seasons where skinny tires damage out trails and we would otherwise be sitting out riding. Also our winters are variable and when skiing conditions suck, fat bikes are usually awesome. It's nice to be able to take a quick rip down the road to your closest park to ride dog walkers paths, instead of loading up for a big outing to the hills, although that's fun too with a bit more time in your hands. I still prefer to ride my 29 full sus in the summer but if you wanted one bike to do a lot of things a fatty could be the ticket.
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I don't think they will be a fad but time will tell. The ones I rode from Turner, Salsa, Rocky Mtn, Specialized, ALL weighed in around 27 pounds even with full suspension. As for the nimbleness of the ride, if you closed your eyes while on it you wouldn't know it was a fat bike. I did find it harder to bunny hop with the softer tyres.
I even rode one full suspension fatbike with electric pedal assist, that was amazing to cruise along at 12mph while putting out the effort of 8mph. Prime conditions were 40 mile range, and a governer of 20mph. Can't remember the MFG though. Lots of electric pedal assist bikes on display at the Sea Otter.
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ive had fat bikes since the first gen pugsley .. I have even raced a few... they are super slow and way to main stream now.
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I don't think they will be a fad but time will tell. The ones I rode from Turner, Salsa, Rocky Mtn, Specialized, ALL weighed in around 27 pounds even with full suspension. As for the nimbleness of the ride, if you closed your eyes while on it you wouldn't know it was a fat bike. I did find it harder to bunny hop with the softer tyres. I even rode one full suspension fatbike with electric pedal assist, that was amazing to cruise along at 12mph while putting out the effort of 8mph. Prime conditions were 40 mile range, and a governer of 20mph. Can't remember the MFG though. Lots of electric pedal assist bikes on display at the Sea Otter.
If you close your eyes and it rides like a regular bike ... Then clearly it's just about looks?
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I have had a Salsa Beargrease now for 3 years. The bike is my go to bike, very comfortable and fun to ride.
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If you close your eyes and it rides like a regular bike ... Then clearly it's just about looks?
Ah contraire mon fraire! or however it's spelled, I suggest you do a search for fat bike videos. You will see what they can do vs other bikes.

Where I live on California central coast there are many good trails to ride and the surface can vary from rock garden to roots to sand any time any where. IMHO having a fat bike would allow me to ride all of it. At the present time the sand is too deep, too long to ride thru and the rock gardens too big for my 26" shod Titus. Not to mention the gravel they dumped on the steep climbs at Ft Ord, Scary!

When I go mountainbiking I want to ride, not do hike-a-bike.
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