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Old June 23rd, 2015, 08:41 AM
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Experiences with The 4x4 Center Vermont?

Anyone here ever dealt with The 4x4 Center? Can't find much except one thread with a guy complaining and people basically calling bullshit on his complaints. Looking into them to do a mild resto on a 95 County LWB. Also open to other shop suggestions.

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Old June 23rd, 2015, 09:42 AM
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 10:04 AM
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I met a couple of the folks there the other week...I was AMAZED at the number of Defenders in the lot. There were a ton more in back and in the shop, and they have a pretty big facility:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...80009468926722

I've also heard decent feedback about them from Zack (Z.G) as well...Mike Hopwood (owner) also does an offroad training school, so I'd say you'd be in pretty good hands.

Certainly not to detract from Mike....BUT if you're looking for RRC work, I'd go out on a limb and say that Taylor Congleton is pretty much one of the foremost RRC experts around. He had a pristine California truck that the owner shipped all the way to him specifically to work on, and he had quite a few others there. I bet in the years to come that Taylor will be the "ECR of Range Rover Classics":
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 10:07 AM
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They built my buddy's 90 to 110 conversion about 8-9 years ago. They did a great job and he is very happy with them.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 10:12 AM
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Taylor Congleton (aka Taylor Cougelton) does some good work on classics located in Milton, VT

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As for the 4x4 center only have dealt with them once to check my oil pressure.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 10:16 AM
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I've seen a few trucks that came out of 4x4 Center and they were nice builds.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 11:07 AM
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For RRC is only use Taylor. It's his real speciality.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 03:26 PM
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Another vote for Taylor. I sent my RRC to Taylor a while back for some restoration / clean-up work and new motor/transmission/etc. Looking forward to getting it back, but from everything I've seen he does top notch work with an incredible attention to detail.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 03:32 PM
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Another vote for Taylor. I sent my RRC to Taylor a while back for some restoration / clean-up work and new motor/transmission/etc. Looking forward to getting it back, but from everything I've seen he does top notch work with an incredible attention to detail.
Is yours the goldish colored one with the body kit?
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Is yours the goldish colored one with the body kit?
I'm guessing yes...that's the same one I saw from CA. Thing looked VERY nice.
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Is yours the goldish colored one with the body kit?
Silver 1995 25th Anniversary with the TWR kit.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 03:40 PM
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I'm guessing yes...that's the same one I saw from CA. Thing looked VERY nice.

That thing was amazing


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Silver 1995 25th Anniversary with the TWR kit.


Hmm, I think I'm thinking of a different truck. Either way you'll be very happy with the results
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 05:05 PM
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Silver 1995 25th Anniversary with the TWR kit.
Can't wait to see the results... Please post up.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 06:07 PM
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I'm biased because Mike Hopwood has been a good friend for nearly 25 years. I've certainly heard great things about Taylor, but can't vouch firsthand the way I can with Mike. His operation is pretty substantial - there are about 6-7 techs working on Land Rovers at any given time, aside from the guys that instruct at his off-road driving school. He also has - for lack of a better term - the pedigree. He's British; he can diagnose a faulty widget quicker than anyone I've ever met; he daily drives "LRNA 4" (which he bought directly from LRNA back in '94 when he started the off-road driving school and has built, rebuilt, extreme wheeled, and taught more people to love Land Rovers with that thing than anyone); and until very recently, he operated the off-road school almost exclusively with Range Rover Classics. To say that he knows them inside and out would be putting it mildly, as those things were tricked out way beyond factory spec to be reliable and capable and survived many, many years being abused day-in and day-out by first-time off-roaders.

Honestly, I doubt you'd ever meet a more intelligent, skilled or fastidious individual than Mike. He demands perfection from his employees and does not settle for BS - either from them or from the customer. Simply stated, if you want a Land Rover/Range Rover project done properly, he's right at the top of the list.

If it's a big project, it might be worth it to come up to VT and meet both of the guys in person before committing. It's summertime in Vermont, which is a lure in and of itself - and if you give me a weeks' notice, I'll be sure to have a 4-pack of Heady Topper awaiting your arrival.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 09:43 PM
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The 4x4 Center did the restoration on my 90 around 5 years ago. Among other things, the work included a 4.6 conversion, drive train rehab, body and paint work, AC install, etc...
I have to say that they did a very good job. Trust me- I know what a bad restoration can be like...I just went through one on my 110 so do your homework and ask lots of questions. Don't be afraid to pull the plug even if you are dealing with a "reputable" shop.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 10:23 PM
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So much great info. Glad to hear 4c4 shop is well regarded and good to know about Taylor's place. Will let you guys know what direction we go in.
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Wow

Just visited VT and took my RR that Taylor is working on for a spin. It's beyond anything I could have imagined. His attention to detail and the level of his work is incredible - I'm glad I sent the RR to him to work on, and would not hesitate to recommend him to anyone who needs any work done.
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Old July 11th, 2015, 07:17 AM
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Just visited VT and took my RR that Taylor is working on for a spin. It's beyond anything I could have imagined. His attention to detail and the level of his work is incredible - I'm glad I sent the RR to him to work on, and would not hesitate to recommend him to anyone who needs any work done.
Truck looks awesome! Post more pics
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Old July 11th, 2015, 08:48 AM
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Just visited VT and took my RR that Taylor is working on for a spin. It's beyond anything I could have imagined. His attention to detail and the level of his work is incredible - I'm glad I sent the RR to him to work on, and would not hesitate to recommend him to anyone who needs any work done.

Nice meeting you! That truck is amazing.
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Nice meeting you! That truck is amazing.
Thanks Zack! Great meeting you as well - enjoyed visiting RN
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