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Old March 18th, 2017, 10:41 PM
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Engine swap in imported vehicle

I have a hard time figuring out the regulations for engine swaps in imported vehicles. Some people tell me I'm free todo whatever after I have the vehicle titled and registered. Others say the engine has to be at least 21 years old. It's hard to find legislative information on it.

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Old March 19th, 2017, 12:24 AM
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I'm not a lawyer.

My understanding is once you've legally imported a vehicle (crossed your t's, dotted your i's) you are free to modify it as you wish. As with modifying any other vehicle, you will need to comply with your individual State's laws and regulations.

For example, the brakes need to work, the lights need to work, if your State requires a smog check, it needs to pass, etc.

The 21 year old engine is a separate issue. I assume you are aware that we are able to import and drive on U.S. roads any non-NAS vehicle that is 25 years old. Separately, we are allowed to import and drive on U.S. roads any 21 year old non-NAS engine.

Again, your individual State may have laws and regulations.

Basically, any 25 year old vehicle, and/or any 21 year old engine can be licensed and used in 49 States with ease, or reasonable effort. But California is nearly impossible.

Fortunately, any vehicle legally licensed ANYWHERE (49 States, U.S. Territories or foreign country) can be legally driven in California for 20 days. Drive out of California on day 20, then turn around, drive back in and drive in California for another 20 days. Repeat.

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Old March 19th, 2017, 01:46 AM
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Any vehicle imported needs to have the original type of engine too. So if it was a V8 it needs a V8. There are some additional nuances to this rule that I don't really understand. To be safe though, stick with that rule.
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Old March 19th, 2017, 11:52 AM
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To be technical any engine you swap into a vehicle whether it's imported or not needs to be EPA certified, and of equal or newer model year. It does not need to be the same type. You can replace a V8 with a 4-cyl. It just needs to be the same class (light duty), so it can't be a heavy duty (semi truck, agricultural, etc) or marine engine. The 21 year exemption only applies to nonroad engines and engines that are already installed in a vehicle being imported. So you can't replace an imported truck's engine with another non-conforming engine if you intend to drive it on public roads. Individual state laws vary and if you don't have emissions testing or inspection there's little chance authorities will find out what you did, but it's not exactly responsible to put in an engine that produces excessive pollution and if the truck was ever seized for some reason I don't think it would help your case very well if they found out it had a nonconforming replacement engine.
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Old March 19th, 2017, 01:16 PM
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Not quite clear, are you GOING to import said truck? Or is said truck ALREADY imported and cleared customs? Different conversations.

If you are GOING to import a truck immediately get ahold of Uncle Douglas here on the forum. It is what he does for a living and he does it well.

If the truck is already residing in the free state of Georgia, stick whatever your heart desires under the hood because you are a free man living in a free state.

However, if you are living in Kalifornia or one of the other states run by socialist tyrants you are not free to modify your personal property as you see fit because you are not a free man.
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Old March 19th, 2017, 01:22 PM
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Old March 20th, 2017, 09:21 AM
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I guess this is really a "follow your gut" interpretation.

The Oneten is titled and registrered but already before I got it I knew that the 2.5TD would be swapped.

Depending on $$$$ I'll go with either a 300tdi or the R2.8 Cummins whenever it's becomes available
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I would only swap if the current engine is so worn out that it HAS to be replaced. For the thousands that you'll spend on a swap, you get maybe 10% increase in performance.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 09:54 AM
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Yeah she's completely worn out. 295,000miles. The amazing part is that I'm the second owner .

The 300 is just a pleasure to crank up and imo runs much smoother. I agree it's not a powerhouse but, again imo, it's a significant upgrade to the TD. In really good shape you have 86hp in the TD and 113hp with the 300 and spend a little mulla and you'll have 140+

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I would only swap if the current engine is so worn out that it HAS to be replaced. For the thousands that you'll spend on a swap, you get maybe 10% increase in performance.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 12:35 PM
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Find a great deal on a ROW V8 thru UD or johan & arrange to have a LS V8 swapped into it. Sell the diesel now if you need to get the $ out of it or sell it later once the LS swap is done. Much more power than any other available scenarios & perhaps less risk from overreaching socialist tyrants since you are going from V8 to V8.
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I have an 85 110 currently set-up for a 200TDi, but the VIN says it was originally a v8. It's a project- I have a reman Ashtree rhd bulkhead, fresh Turner 200 and a fresh Ashcroft LT77 ready to be installed.

------ Follow up post added March 20th, 2017 04:35 PM ------

Forgot to mention it has been titled and registered in Pennsylvania for at least 5 years.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 05:51 PM
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I have an 85 110 currently set-up for a 200TDi, but the VIN says it was originally a v8. It's a project- I have a reman Ashtree rhd bulkhead, fresh Turner 200 and a fresh Ashcroft LT77 ready to be installed.

------ Follow up post added March 20th, 2017 04:35 PM ------

Forgot to mention it has been titled and registered in Pennsylvania for at least 5 years.
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