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Old November 19th, 2009, 12:57 PM
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EAS pumped up!

...I hope...

I don't know if it was by design or accident that the air suspension is back in operation. I have three suspension computers. I tried to use the unlock program from RSW on each one. Each attempt gave different results. One computer did nothing, unresponsive to the laptop. Another seemed to talk to the laptop OK, but would cut in and out. The third one was more like plug and play...I connected it to the laptop, tried the "unlock EAS' button and the system started working. Still unsure if I really did anything and secondly, whether I wasted a lot of time and trouble with this when I coulda just tried each unit until I had a good one...I'll never know.

At present the truck is sitting at standard height, is maintaining an even keel and hasn't dropped to the bumpstops....yet.

Later when I'm home I'll go thru the various heights and see if it goes up and down like it's supposed to....more to come.

A quick history: removed the coil conversion springs the PO put on back in October. Pumped up system manually and ran it since then without the ECU plugged in. Spent untold time and money making up a communication cable according to the directions on Storey Wilson's website (unsurprisingly, he too no longer supports us lowly Classic owners directly). That involved ordering stuff from the UK and soldering up a few parts. I did a pretty good job of it too if you want my opinion, but I digress.
It has been n the making for a few weeks due to one thing or another. The 'effing laptop is such an old thing that it required so much to get his software working...installing Win2K for one thing. You can only imagine that pain. Then I lost the battery charging cable which finally turned up in a box of crap I've been hauling back and forth from the Eastern Shore....
So using "free" laptop and about 30 bucks worth electronic bits ended up being about $1500 worth of my time.
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Old November 19th, 2009, 01:16 PM
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Congrats! You are one of three classic owners left in the US with air suspension. Actually, two because one I know got clunkered.
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Old November 19th, 2009, 01:32 PM
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Congrats! You are one of three classic owners left in the US with air suspension. Actually, two because one I know got clunkered.
And the other one is still running purely out of spite.... because the owner said "As soon as the air bags quit working, I'm trading it in".

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Old November 19th, 2009, 01:38 PM
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LOL. CarlosZ down here is still running his. Or did you count him already

Bill's LWB is very nice. Congrats on finally getting that sorted!

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Old November 19th, 2009, 01:55 PM
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Carlos is #2. Beyond that I know of no one else. Arthur's 95 was really nice and running on (almost all new parts mind you) EAS until it was clunkered.
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Old November 19th, 2009, 04:03 PM
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I (heart) my air suspension. It is especially wonderful for getting my 95 year old pop in the truck cuz I can drop it down to access height and it really helps him get in. The other bonus is for towing the boats and stuff. Drop to access height, back up to trailer, air back up and hook up...reverse that when dropping trailer. It also pumps up the rear when loaded with trailer tongue, so it always sits level even when towing or loaded.
I would also submit that it wheels awfully nice too, given the right tires. Traction control rocks.
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Ahh but one more...

Nick's (my son) newly purchased SWB had new air springs & pump replaced by the PO at 134K miles (now has 141K) along with a laundry list of other stuff...(oil cooler lines, gas tank, alternator, etc) then the SRS warning came on and they promptly donated the RR to charity...lucky for Nick. He now wants to lift it...say good buy to the springs...any way to program/bypass the EAS in a classic to get more lift?
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Old November 20th, 2009, 07:57 PM
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Nick's (my son) newly purchased SWB had new air springs & pump replaced by the PO at 134K miles (now has 141K) along with a laundry list of other stuff...(oil cooler lines, gas tank, alternator, etc) then the SRS warning came on and they promptly donated the RR to charity...lucky for Nick. He now wants to lift it...say good buy to the springs...any way to program/bypass the EAS in a classic to get more lift?
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Nick's (my son) newly purchased SWB had new air springs & pump replaced by the PO at 134K miles (now has 141K) along with a laundry list of other stuff...(oil cooler lines, gas tank, alternator, etc) then the SRS warning came on and they promptly donated the RR to charity...lucky for Nick. He now wants to lift it...say good buy to the springs...any way to program/bypass the EAS in a classic to get more lift?
Just lock it in high mode.
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Old November 20th, 2009, 09:23 PM
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Just lock it in high mode.
My LWB wouldn't stay locked above 55 mph. Dropped to highway mode.
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Congrats! You are one of three classic owners left in the US with air suspension. Actually, two because one I know got clunkered.
I've had more than that just at the shop recently. 2 of them are all redone as the owners decided they liked the EAS better than the coil conversion someone else had put in. 1 is a mint 95 lwb w/300tdi and has to be one of the nicest Rovers I have ever driven. Not for the weak of wallet, but then again neither are Defenders really.
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OK, I guess it's officially working again. I drove it to the Eastern Shore and back over the weekend and it worked flawlessly. Went down to access mode, up to extended and holds standard height with no problems.

No apologies to all of you who think air suspension is a boondoggle. It has proven itself worthy lo these 16-odd years.

>My LWB wouldn't stay locked above 55 mph. Dropped to highway mode.

Just as it is supposed to. I think it is supposed to go back to Standard height if it is over 35 mph for more than 5 seconds.

>Nick's (my son) newly purchased SWB had new air springs & pump replaced by the PO at 134K miles (now has 141K) along with a laundry list of other stuff...(oil cooler lines, gas tank, alternator, etc) then the SRS warning came on and they promptly donated the RR to charity...lucky for Nick. He now wants to lift it...say good buy to the springs...any way to program/bypass the EAS in a classic to get more lift?

Yes, unplug the ECU, jumper wires 1,8,26 together to start he pump and open the inlet valve. Then one by one jumper wire 10, 11, 27,28 to lift the springs to your taste. If you go too high jumper 1 and 9 and then each corner. Unplug all the jumpers. Leave the ECU unplugged. You may have to occasionally reinflate.

I carry a 4way jumper in the cubby box in case of bumpstop failure. You can usually overcome a hard fault by manually pumping up using the above process.

You don't need more lift with EAS. It will lift the truck plenty when you need it to. If you want to run giant Super Swampers, then a Classic with EAS is not the vehicle.

I'll put my stock EAS Lawib up against a stock Defender any day.

>Not for the weak of wallet.

Guilty, but I own one anyway.
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 12:28 PM
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Stock: a loophole large enough to drive a RR Classic through.
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Your on Bill. My D90 is 100% stock right down to the BFG ATs (ok, to be fair it does have bilsteins, but it is stock springs etc.) next ROVERS Trials Event in Robesonia.
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> Next ROVERS Trials Event in Robesonia

Hmmm. Hafta put mud tires on for that. Lemme know.
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