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Old September 8th, 2014, 12:01 PM
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Aww, man. That sucks Abe, I'm sorry for this.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 12:17 PM
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It needs to be reported to Animal Control/law enforcement, next it will be someone's child.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 12:19 PM
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And the third one escaped unharmed?

I know I'd be so full of anger. Even though I'm always the one to say anger is wasted energy.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 12:21 PM
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It needs to be reported to Animal Control/law enforcement, next it will be someone's child.
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...The dogs owners surrendered them both to animal control to be euthanized....
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It needs to be reported to Animal Control/law enforcement, next it will be someone's child.
You missed it. The dogs were turned over to animal control to be euthanized.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 12:40 PM
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It needs to be reported to Animal Control/law enforcement, next it will be someone's child.
100% agree

My Golden was attacked by a pit bull and bitten on the tail. Was hospitalized over night. Pit came out of a house that was being rented. Police's instant involvement (with animal control )was key to managing the rental folk who left shortly afterwards having paid the bill.

My Anger when my dog was attacked was immense. If I saw that dog ever again it was going to get my size 11s or a baseball bat. Before it attacked.

I also notified the neighborhood.
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My best friends wife was attacked by their next door neighbors (renters) pit bull in there own driveway. He stuck the dog with his Spyderco and the dog ran home. He called the cops and the dog was impounded, tested for rabies (no rabies shots ever given) and returned to the owners. My friend was warned that no revenge was to be taken out against the dog or its owner.They skipped paying rent and moved out in the middle of the night. My buddy did say that they had Obama/Biden stickers on all of their junky cars. I'll have to ask if they had GPS's, guns and everything else that Ja-Gland posted.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 01:05 PM
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All I can say at this point , and on an open forum is that the guy is lucky he wasn't a smart ass. It scares me to think of what I would have done if he wasn't so pathetic and apologetic.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 01:06 PM
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It needs to be reported to Animal Control/law enforcement, next it will be someone's child.
Well said.
I have zero remorse for owners of certain breeds of dogs that 1) have attacked before or 2) are statistically are more prone to attack. Personally getting attacked in the face by a pitbull and in the leg by a German Shepard (my friend lost his testicle during the same attack) goes along way at making you callus towards the dog owners. Their stories are always the same..... "Oh, my dog has never done that before... " BS.
Here are the dog attack laws for Florida. Sorry for your mother and her pups. All you can do is be supportive at this point.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...0767/0767.html
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Old September 8th, 2014, 01:08 PM
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Like I said I am worried about my moms health at this point. She isn't well and this isn't the kind of stress her body needs.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 01:19 PM
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Well said. I have zero remorse for owners of certain breeds of dogs that 1) have attacked before or 2) are statistically are more prone to attack. Personally getting attacked in the face by a pitbull and in the leg by a German Shepard (my friend lost his testicle during the same attack) goes along way at making you callus towards the dog owners. Their stories are always the same..... "Oh, my dog has never done that before... " BS. Here are the dog attack laws for Florida. Sorry for your mother and her pups. All you can do is be supportive at this point. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...0767/0767.html
It's not the dog, it's the owner and how they raise them. Like raising your kid to be a nerd or a bully. I have an American Bull terrier, an off breed of pit. I don't think he knows what biting is. He does like to lick. Fact is he has been attacked by another dog and did not defend himself. So it's the owner, not the dog breed.
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It's not the dog, it's the owner and how they raise them.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 01:26 PM
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It's not the dog, it's the owner and how they raise them. Like raising your kid to be a nerd or a bully. I have an American Bull terrier, an off breed of pit. I don't think he knows what biting is. He does like to lick. Fact is he has been attacked by another dog and did not defend himself. So it's the owner, not the dog breed.
It is the owner. Not a breed. These are chow or German Shepard mix, mutt.
These people are slobs to the fullest extent.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 01:33 PM
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It's not the dog, it's the owner and how they raise them. Like raising your kid to be a nerd or a bully. I have an American Bull terrier, an off breed of pit. I don't think he knows what biting is. He does like to lick. Fact is he has been attacked by another dog and did not defend himself. So it's the owner, not the dog breed.
Yes and no. And I'm sure we could all argue this till we are purple. Some dogs are bred to be aggressive and have physical traits that make them physically able to attack large prey. That's a fact.

Some dogs are born with a disposition that makes them aggressive or easily agitated, also a fact.

When you combine the two, unfortunately, even a well behaved dog may be inclined to manifest it's anxiety as aggression towards a person or dog. I've seen golden retrievers bite people in the face and personally had a springer spaniel attack my dog last week. I don't always blame the owner because that's a very easy way to dismiss over a hundred years of selective breeding. Yes some dogs are dangerous due to genetics, regardless of how they are reared.

I find people that distrust a breed have had a bad experience with them before. People that defend a breed have generally had a positive experience with that breed.

In this case I feel bad both people who lost their pets today. Especially your mother who clearly loved these dogs and losing a pet in such a manner must be akin to losing a family member in an attack.

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I know everyone says, "it's the owner not the breed", and I don't want to get in an argument; but it is not always just the owners. There are breeds that are more territorial, and sometimes more aggressive than others. We had a dog at work that was exceptionally well trained and raised, and still attacked someone unprovoked. Sorry to say, it is the truth.
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I know what all of you are saying. In this case it is the owner. When my mom got the lake house she was told by the neighbors that their dogs where aggressive and watch out for them.

To me that means they know the dogs have issues and they still choose to let them out of the house with out a leash. On top of that these same dogs attacked the other neighbors dog last week end. It's simple in this case. It's the owners lack of responsibility and action.

The pain that these people have caused to my family for a lack of responsibility is inexcusable.
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Here is a loose dog story that screwed a guys life up more than anybody could ever imagined.
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In my neck of the woods, that is a felony, especially since the dogs attacked before. The cops would lock them up and hand the dogs over to Animal Control (where they'd prolly be euthanized). I guess FL is more lenient.
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I know what all of you are saying. In this case it is the owner. When my mom got the lake house she was told by the neighbors that their dogs where aggressive and watch out for them.

To me that means they know the dogs have issues and they still choose to let them out of the house with out a leash. On top of that these same dogs attacked the other neighbors dog last week end. It's simple in this case. It's the owners lack of responsibility and action.

The pain that these people have caused to my family for a lack of responsibility is inexcusable.
Abe, let me know if there is anything I and my family can do to help out mama. While I suck at mahjong and bridge I'd like to offer any help you think would be appropriate.






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I know everyone says, "it's the owner not the breed", and I don't want to get in an argument; but it is not always just the owners. There are breeds that are more territorial, and sometimes more aggressive than others. We had a dog at work that was exceptionally well trained and raised, and still attacked someone unprovoked. Sorry to say, it is the truth.
Heck, I've seen chihuahuas become territorial and bite someone.
Ok, so we have dogs that are genetically breed for such a purpose.

So let's say its 80% owner and 20% dog.
My dog is a big wuss. I call him a big wienie.
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