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Old April 20th, 2004, 06:31 PM
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Old April 20th, 2004, 06:33 PM
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edit: I just saw Mike stepped in so this comment has been removed

It is not reasonable in todays "Me me me" mentality, ESPECIALLY in a US city environment, to lull yourself into a false sense of security thinking bikes are going to get the respect they deserve on a road here, let alone in a city.

There are a lot of crazy people driving out there and little you on your little bike whacking his mirror with your little bike lock because he is not respecting your space, is not going to do a whole lot for you when that nut bag just flicks his wrist to the right and turns you into a stain on a parked car. You relying on someone else for your safety is a pretty risky chance, one I personally would take more proactive roll in if it was me on a bike.

Bikers ARE the minority.
Bikers ARE hard to see,
but, you CAN control what happens to you better than drivers can, by using a little common sense and evasive action.

Let me add, I grew up riding a bike where ever I wanted to go. I grew up out in the middle of nowhere and so did my friends. If we wanted to see each other outside of school, we put our asses in the seat and rode. I learned long ago, roads were for cars and if I wanted to be on it, you get out of their way. My younger brother still is a riding fool and his road riding reflects that he can not control what people do in their cars or what they could do to him if he is not careful.

I believe in sharing the road but the key word here is SHARING. The groups of riders of 3 or 4 are not so bad but where I live now, but we do have some pretty selfish riders. We have these roaming gangs of riders who have mistaken the Philadelphia suburbs for the Tour De France and act like they have police escorts both in front of them as well as behind and where ever they are riding is exclusively closed to others as they are there. Every weekend these gang go past my house all day long, literally 30 strong, taking up the entire driving lane all bunched together and tearing it up like there is really a yellow shirt hanging on a tree where ever they are trying to get to. Mind you, this is on a road that already has a fairly large buffer lane on each side that cars are not allowed to drive on. They blow through the red lights at one end of my street and they blow through the 2 stop signs, and have even bullied pedestrians already in cross walks at stop intersections.

Like I said, I have no problem giving a bike plenty of room on the road and holding back a little until a safe opportunity to get by them is available, but you need to remember you are sharing the road with much larger, faster moving, and heavier objects and a lot larger percentage of idiot drivers. The odds are already against riders that they are going to get tagged sooner or later if you are not careful and one of Roberts points the way I read it was (which there was absolutely nothing incorrect about), that its going to hurt you the rider more than its going to hurt the driver.

Bottom line... when you are the little mouse on the big game trail, you don't keep running back and forth under the elephants feet without getting smashed at some point, .
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Old April 20th, 2004, 06:56 PM
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