Diesel swap - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 11:31 AM
ORover's Avatar
ORover
Status: Offline
Fred
NAS 110s #24 and #466
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bend
Posts: 129
Diesel swap

Looking at buying a D90 300tdi for $20k and swapping the drivetrain of my 3.9 NAS 110. Then, selling the D90 again with the 3.9. Any advice on this? Seems like the swap is pretty mechanically straightforward. Are all of the ancillaries the same on the D90 and 110? Makes sense to me as this will be a complete swap with all of the right bits in place unless I am forced to buy a bunch of different things for each rig to make it proper.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 11:52 AM
dmarchand's Avatar
dmarchand
Status: Offline
David Marchand
'97 D90 SW Arles
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New England
Posts: 2,862
Registry
How do you plan to address the heater/AC in the 110? Are you going to keep existing or use the d-90 tdi version?

Reason I ask is the 110 dash would probably need to be swapped in the 9 for this to happen. If no change, then you should be good.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 12:25 PM
landrovered's Avatar
landrovered
Status: Offline
S. Smith
72 Series III 109 Diesel
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Under my truck!
Posts: 753
Not to start a massive controversy but I have driven the 300tdi in a D90 and I will take the 3.9 any day of the week in a 110. I can't imagine dropping that kind of moola and suffer that kind of performance loss. I think you would be better served buying a 5.0L RPI V8 for that kind of jack.

I realize that this flies in the face of the prevailing style but I think it is a bad choice for anything other than bragging rights.

Flame suit on.
__________________
72 Series III 109 SW Diesel, 03 RR, 98 Porsche 986, 01 Porsche 986 3.6 L
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 12:29 PM
JimC's Avatar
JimC
Status: Offline
Jim Cheney
NAS 110 #145
Site Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Posts: 7,154
Registry
Owning a 90 with a tdi and having driven a 110 with a tdi, I can attest that they are not the fastest. When I was still intent on putting a tdi in my 110, I was planning on a turbo kit for the 300 or even a 2.8 TGV.

That being the case, the differences between the two trucks are minor, but it will still be a ton of work. You'll have to weld new motor mounts on both trucks, do some rewiring, and deal with the NAS 110 AC somehow. Nevertheless, the plan is sound.
__________________
Jim Cheney

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 12:34 PM
landrovered's Avatar
landrovered
Status: Offline
S. Smith
72 Series III 109 Diesel
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Under my truck!
Posts: 753
I am not anti diesel, I put a 3.0 L mercedes diesel in my Series III 109, in this case it gave me more HP and more torque than the 2.25L petrol. I would just hate to see that kind of effort go into a conversion that resulted in worse drivability in the long run.
__________________
72 Series III 109 SW Diesel, 03 RR, 98 Porsche 986, 01 Porsche 986 3.6 L
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 12:47 PM
Wolf Fabrication's Avatar
Wolf Fabrication
Status: Offline
Sterling Archer
'08 D3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 7,453
Registry
I just went from a 3.9L D90 to 200tdi 110. There are of course power differences and not as much "get up and go" off the line, but I love the tdi. Lots of low end torque. If it's a high mileage 3.9L, I think the tdi could help the value of the truck as buyers are starting to really want diesel. Oh, did I mention the gas mileage? My 110 tdi with 35" tires gets 24mph on the highway.
__________________
"The most unreliable car in the world is the most reliable car in the world." -Jeremy Clarkson refering to the Range Rover


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Semper Fi!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 01:02 PM
rijosho's Avatar
rijosho
Status: Offline
Joshua
1995 Black ST - Rhinolined edition
Research Assistant/Eagle Eyes
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,557
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Fabrication
My 110 tdi with 35" tires gets 24mph on the highway.
Damn that's slow!!!

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 01:15 PM
Rugbier's Avatar
Rugbier
Status: Offline
Gustavo
110 Tdi - 110 N/A - D3 HSE - RRS SC
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Peoples Republic of Marylandistan
Posts: 5,884
Registry
Yeap he had the HOOD SCOPE backwards, now tha tit is off it my reach UNHEARD speeds of 75mph and consume 24mpg *LOL*




Quote:
Originally Posted by rijosho
Damn that's slow!!!

__________________
NO SIGNATURE
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 01:30 PM
disco dog's Avatar
disco dog
Status: Offline
Tracy Dwyer
2002 D110 TD5
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Costa Rica
Posts: 369
Quote:
Originally Posted by rijosho
Damn that's slow!!!

You don't miss anything!!
Did you rename the horse yet?
__________________
PURA VIDA !!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 03:01 PM
Wolf Fabrication's Avatar
Wolf Fabrication
Status: Offline
Sterling Archer
'08 D3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 7,453
Registry
yeah, yeah, yeah, I meant 24mpg you bunch of girls.
__________________
"The most unreliable car in the world is the most reliable car in the world." -Jeremy Clarkson refering to the Range Rover


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Semper Fi!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 04:51 PM
JohnsD90's Avatar
JohnsD90
Status: Offline
John
74 SIII 88", 88 110, 91 110
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 2,282
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by disco dog
You don't miss anything!!
Did you rename the horse yet?
i thought he was changing his user name to Horsey Boy
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 05:43 PM
rovertrader's Avatar
rovertrader
Status: Offline
Dale
Tithonus 110, D-90, 109 S/T 5-door
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Marshville, NC USA
Posts: 4,624
I thought he was getting a free RRC to pull the trailer.

Back to the post, done too many swaps to count. Leave them as is, send me $15k, be money ahead, and happier in the end.
Flame suit on, and halon equipped....
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 08:02 PM
Uncle Douglas's Avatar
Uncle Douglas
Status: Online
Doug Crowther
A defender in every driveway-motto
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gods Country- Central Virginia
Posts: 11,830
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by rovertrader
Back to the post, done too many swaps to count. Leave them as is, send me $15k, be money ahead, and happier in the end.
Flame suit on, and halon equipped....
I'd have expected that comment from almost anyone but you-hypocrite/heretic who has an engine swap thread of his own down below.....
__________________
Good judgement comes from experience,experience comes from bad judgement.

Dividing Creek Imports
Worldwide Vehicle Shipment and Importation Service
Restoration & Modification work


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

410.693.1391


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old December 2nd, 2009, 09:43 PM
JimC's Avatar
JimC
Status: Offline
Jim Cheney
NAS 110 #145
Site Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Posts: 7,154
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by rovertrader
Leave them as is, send me $15k, be money ahead, and happier in the end.
Flame suit on, and halon equipped....
If I read this correctly, you want him to buy the 2nd truck, leave both alone, and send you 15k? That's a good deal for you. I'd actually prefer it if he sent me 15k.
__________________
Jim Cheney

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 05:57 AM
rovertrader's Avatar
rovertrader
Status: Offline
Dale
Tithonus 110, D-90, 109 S/T 5-door
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Marshville, NC USA
Posts: 4,624
Either way, he's still $$ ahead.
Not hypocrite, just trying to help prevent another terminal case- seriously!! I'm thinking of rebuilding the Cougar in flea bay JUST TO AVOID another swap- after I move the Tdi to the XD..... of course, the XD needs a motor, and I just happen to have a 300Tdi RHD D-I, see- it is terminal!!

Oh, and step away from the dull yellow light/glow.....
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 09:25 AM
o2batsea's Avatar
o2batsea
Status: Offline
Bill Adams
66 109 sw 94 lwb
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: kensington md
Posts: 6,495
Registry
Put a Ford 351W with a Vortech blower in the 110. Stealthy.
__________________
Bill Adams

1966 109 5 door wagon 300Tdi "spermaceti fueled"
1994 RRC LeWiB "ruining the air behind me"
1968 2A 88

All my troubles are Rover
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old December 16th, 2009, 10:55 AM
ORover's Avatar
ORover
Status: Offline
Fred
NAS 110s #24 and #466
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bend
Posts: 129
Thanks for the first few useful and relevant posts. I don't know what happens when we get to the 4th post or so - These forums can be really humorous sometimes!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat

Tags
diesel

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cummins diesel engine swap TravelerBT Misc. Chit-Chat 2 January 4th, 2009 10:17 PM
Can you fab a diesel exhaust like a V8 exhaust? solihul Defender Technical Discussions 8 September 7th, 2005 04:09 PM
Izuzu diesel swap rustydefender Misc. Chit-Chat 10 August 1st, 2005 03:52 PM
shop going under, diesel engines artm Defender Technical Discussions 0 May 12th, 2005 04:36 PM
Some notes on head gasket swap issues Hans Misc. Chit-Chat 0 January 17th, 2005 06:40 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:47 PM.


Copyright