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Old March 7th, 2014, 04:34 PM
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They make disco stuff too.....
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Old March 7th, 2014, 04:43 PM
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rovers north to step up the range rover classic parts, they are really expensive on most if not everything they sale
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Old March 7th, 2014, 05:55 PM
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So there are only 4 or 5 of them ever made? -Jeff
If that's really the case, I had one that came with my truck and sold it.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 06:25 PM
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That is not the case, people may actually believe you and that's how rumors are started.
Fact. Not a rumor. I believe the two vendors who told me first hand.

I appreciate that you work for RN and want to protect your employer. Like I said, I still like RN and still buy parts from you, but it's a cutthroat business and RN wants to be on top, understandably. You can't deny that.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 06:47 PM
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I will not deny that RN wants to be at the top. Most any company would.

I am not going to get into things that have happened in the past before I was here and don't have 1st hand knowledge about. What I will say, is that Rovers North did not take ETUSA from Stephen; it was a decision made by Exmoor when things changed internally.

And just as a note, retail prices did change when ETUSA was cancelled, but they also changed for us.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 08:15 PM
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RN was approached decades ago by Land Rover about fixing the Tickford tops, Mark recommended Chris at Badger. Years later Chris came to RN to help design a new top for NAS trucks. After the design was finalized, a P.O was given to Chris for 50 tops. Of those 50, roughly 4-5 were fulfilled. The P.O. was left open but RN needed tops sooner, so another source was found to produce the design that originated at RN. It's essentially a copy of the Bestop with a few differences.



Like you said, every top is basically a copy of the Bestop.



The original "Rovers North Top by Badger Coachworks" are the ones to watch out for, as they were found to be incorrect. We modified the design for a better fit.

That's the first time I've heard that story.

Truth is Badger was repairing Tickfords for Land Rover Metro West who made the recommendation to Land Rover to use him. Which they did.
His shop was full of Unrepairable Tickford tops for the longest time.

Land Rover thought so highly of this work they shipped him a 90 to use.

And so the Badger top was born.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 08:20 PM
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You are more than welcome to believe any story you like. I was only posting here to dispel myths and rumors, not to argue with anyone.
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Hilarious thread.

A 17% markup for customer service on cheapfuck parts that total $50 is no big deal. A 17% markup on on parts totaling $2-3k is $340-$510. That is a big deal. Customer service is not worth $500.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 10:40 PM
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Hilarious thread.

A 17% markup for customer service on cheapfuck parts that total $50 is no big deal. A 17% markup on on parts totaling $2-3k is $340-$510. That is a big deal. Customer service is not worth $500.
I disagree.

There have been times that I have literally been stranded in the middle of nowhere without parts to fix my truck. Guess who came to my rescue? That's right, Rovers North.

Customer service can absolutely be worth $500.
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I disagree.

There have been times that I have literally been stranded in the middle of nowhere without parts to fix my truck. Guess who came to my rescue? That's right, Rovers North.

Customer service can absolutely be worth $500.
I've been in the same and always been able to depend on guys like Will Tillery to get me parts fast without a markup.
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Old March 8th, 2014, 09:11 AM
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So, if these guys don't mark up the product they sell, then how does one stay in business and continue to deliver quality parts and good customer service? Unless of course they are non-profit ventures being funded by other means. I have purchased parts from not only RN but RDS, Safari HP, AB, Lucky 8, GBR and others and I just assumed they all marked up their product in order to stay in business.
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Old March 8th, 2014, 09:51 AM
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I have what I believe is convincing proof that none of those other vendors mark up their products. It's all charity work to feed our addiction.
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Old March 8th, 2014, 09:54 AM
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I have what I believe is convincing proof that none of those other vendors mark up their products. It's all charity work to feed our addiction.
Come on now...say it isn't so...
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Old March 8th, 2014, 10:19 AM
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I've been in the same and always been able to depend on guys like Will Tillery to get me parts fast without a markup.
Except on Saturdays.
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Old March 8th, 2014, 10:21 AM
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if a profit markup is a bad thing... then

The beginning of Communism and the end of the beautiful Capitalism era is at your doorstep

In my minimal Financial knowledge ( but with no doubt greater than many here ) to keep stock on hand a dead stock level is established and partial supported by the fast moving products, a profit takes all that in consideration not just Payroll, and Fixed cost.

How many independents have reproduced a NLA part and charged a crazy price and no one bitches
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Old March 8th, 2014, 10:25 AM
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if a profit markup is a bad thing... then

The beginning of Communism and the end of the beautiful Capitalism era is at your doorstep

In my minimal Financial knowledge ( but with no doubt greater than many here ) to keep stock on hand a dead stock level is established and partial supported by the fast moving products, a profit takes all that in consideration not just Payroll, and Fixed cost.

How many independents have reproduced a NLA part and charged a crazy price and no one bitches
Don't forget the all to important variable costs...beer, naps, etc...
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Old March 8th, 2014, 10:32 AM
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One of the best parts of capitalism is the many choices in the market place. If you have a preference for a particular vendor, buy from them.
If you have a bent against one, no need to bitch about them, just don't buy from them.
Good quality, low cost, fast service. Pick 2.
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Old March 8th, 2014, 10:44 AM
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if a profit markup is a bad thing... then

The beginning of Communism and the end of the beautiful Capitalism era is at your doorstep

In my minimal Financial knowledge ( but with no doubt greater than many here ) to keep stock on hand a dead stock level is established and partial supported by the fast moving products, a profit takes all that in consideration not just Payroll, and Fixed cost.

How many independents have reproduced a NLA part and charged a crazy price and no one bitches
I think the original comment is based on the size of markup rather than markup in general.

It's simple in my view ... if you don't like the prices .. shop elsewhere. If you can't find what you want elsewhere welcome to economics 101 ... supply & demand pricing.

Every business has a model that supports their prices ...
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Old March 8th, 2014, 10:44 AM
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I think what this community needs is a period of parts redistribution. All the vendors, hoarders, and vulture capitalists need to give us parts for free. They have parts and we don't and that's not fair!
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