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Old August 28th, 2014, 02:39 PM
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So I have been thinking of a lift, and read many a post on here about the 2" lift - pro's and cons - for a 110 CSW.

But as I bought the truck, the PO had no idea what springs/shocks were on it, and if they were std, 1" or 2". Is there a way to figure out what is on there?

Do I have to take them off and measure?

The shocks are shot, leaking and lost dust covers - so they for sure need a change...
Also, if I go 2" with Terrafirma springs & shocks from Lucky8 do I have to do Castor corrected radius and trailing arms as well??? AND a double cardon drive shaft for front and rear...AND.....

I don't want to monkey too much but I do like the look of a 2" lift and larger tires.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 02:49 PM
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Old August 28th, 2014, 02:50 PM
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Don't get Tf shocks unless you're getting prosports or big bores
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Old August 28th, 2014, 02:51 PM
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Park on a flat, level surface and measure the length of the springs as the truck sits normally. That will tell if it is a standardish height or not.

See if there are any paint color marks on them.

You should not need anything other than the springs for a 2" lift.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 02:52 PM
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As to choice of shocks, that depends on how you use it and what you want to do.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 03:44 PM
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So my thought on shocks is why not ride with "OK" ones as you should replace them every X thousand (30k?) anyway so why buy expensive ones like Bilstein or OME

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Old August 28th, 2014, 03:57 PM
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Expensive ones can be rebuilt time after time. They can also be tuned/adjusted.
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My thoughts.....DO IT
....but like Doug said, go with a quality option, not shitpart. Also, since you may be a bit more "tippy" on road with the center of gravity higher, try to consider the 2nd rear shock mount kit (I know I have plugged this upgrade many times in the past, but having driven with an without dual rear shocks I'm convinced that unless you're running a sway bar, doulies are the only way)


When I first imported my truck it sat about 1.5" over stock (or what we believed to be stock height of a totally stock NAS D-90) If memory serves me STOCK height it was like 35" from the ground to the peak of wheel arch. So I was about 36.5" originally (or three years ago).


In time and with weight from accessories added, we relaxed a bit and were sitting about 34.75" in the rear and 35" in the front. I went the easy way and added some Rovertyme 2" spacers to the rear I snagged up on this board about a month ago, but am considering a all-new OME +2 HD suspension kit next year.
I'm running OME shocks, but springs are of unknown origin (assumed to be shitpart or equal).


Take some measurements on yours when you can. I'm curious.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 04:35 PM
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I prefer the Koni shocks. Leaps and bounds better on rough roads. Lifetime warranty. Only cost a bit more.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 04:40 PM
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Crap shocks = horrible handling and control, ie...easy to roll truck. Kind of like buying Pep Boys house brand tires. Taking your life in your hands every time you pull out of the driveway.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 04:47 PM
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Also no reason to replace a good quality gas charged shock (OME or regular Bilstein) every 30k.

You could reasonably expect to see 75k from a set of those. I rarely see them leak. Usually they just start to rust and get a little ugly.
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Don't get Tf shocks unless you're getting prosports or big bores
Agreed!

+2" you will be fine without changing anything else, but if your bushings are already well worn the change in pressure points will wear them out quickly.
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If you want to do moderate off-roading but mostly on road, OME is a great solution... As others have said with 2" lifts you don't need to touch castor or driveshafts... Only reason to go more than two would be to fit larger tires 34+... 2" lift will fit 33s well and save you from all sorts of headaches that larger lifts bring...
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what size tires do you Jonesy? Perhaps someone can share the height at the top of the front wings of a stock 110 to give you an idea of how much its lifted or not already.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 06:25 PM
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OK - thanks for the PM's - you know who you are...so OME it is (had these with RTE on my RRC) PLUS they are made by absolute geniuses who deal with shite outback roads all the time

Cheers on the castor thingy...

BUT - what about springs then?????

Like John said - so we measure but what do we compare it to? Anyone with a stock ROW 110 Defender with stock (known) springs!
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Jonesy, I have a stock 110 set up. Let me know what you want measured. I'm around tomorrow if you want to meet up.

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Old August 28th, 2014, 06:37 PM
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It'll sound biased, but I really recommend Fox.... I run them on both of my Discos.
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Ran 2" OME and Bilstein 4600s on my 110 and many said it was the nicest riding Defender they had been in.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 07:01 PM
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Jonesy, I have a stock 110 set up. Let me know what you want measured. I'm around tomorrow if you want to meet up. Clay
Clay let's get together. I will be in your neck of the woods around 1pm. And I have your hi lift mount in my truck too!
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Just for another data point, I have been perfectly happy with my 2" TF springs/shocks from lucky 8. They are probably 4+ years old now and see more off-road action than most.
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