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Old April 7th, 2004, 05:44 PM
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Well Darrin. I think it's a "believe it when you see it" type of thing. The fact is, the prototype LR3's/Explorer variants have been spyed all over the world for almost a year now. Yet we have seen no spy photos of a defender replacement. The closest thing to that would be the Bronco prototype. I don't know how much sense it would make for Ford to reintroduce the bronco, and then do a new defender, for the US market. Seems our overall "brand recognition" would be better on the bronco, than Defender. and they would either do well, or do poorly by rebadging the thing and adding different plastic crap-boards around it depending on how it was marketed...

Maybe they could call it the XXXtreme Defender....

Ah, who cares. Enough bandwidth has been wasted on the Defender topic. It's plain and simple. It's not coming back, until you see it on our shores in person.

Kind of like that fabled 4x4 from Brazil.
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Old April 7th, 2004, 05:45 PM
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Yeah, real dirty when it gets undressed....

I think it's still all of that VA mud.
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Better off not introducing it. they are just going to f&%$ it up anyway.
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Damn, if you want to get your digs in on Marchand, you need to be quick! Mike beat me to it...
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Old April 8th, 2004, 12:31 AM
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Hey he's a hard guy to catch so you gotta get him when you can.
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Old April 8th, 2004, 01:46 AM
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Actually the fabled 4x4 from Brazil really is coming. I'm in the loop to do all of the pre-release PR photos and a lot of the marketing/advertising images for Crosslander USA.

I don't know when I'll be able to spill any beans, or if, but I'll see if I can keep you guys posted. I heard late summer/early fall for delivery to port in Florida (main entry point). From then the ball should start rolling pretty quick.
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Old April 8th, 2004, 10:08 AM
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Slade, that's good to hear. It seems they have been extending the introduction date indefinitely over the last two years. It will be interesting to see the actual product and how it will be received by our market. I think their pricing is the absolute key.
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Pricing is expected to be around 21K for the base model. All will be offered with 4x4. Early ones with a gas engine and later ones with the diesel.
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Old April 15th, 2004, 04:25 AM
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I thought you guys might find this article of interest....

http://www.fuelcellcarnews.com/Compa...r1104%2C03.asp
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Old April 15th, 2004, 09:50 AM
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Uh, that article is from November. They were a bit late in publishing it...
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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:31 PM
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Motor Trend new Defender in 07

On page 31 in the July Motor Trend Mag they have a Full page drawing of 2 new designed Defenders. They say they will be reintroduced into the US market in 2007 as 2008 models. They say they will have a Direct Inject four with variable timing, a Duratec 3.8 liter V-6 and in the UK a Peugeot 2.7 liter TD. They will come in a new modern body on a steal frame, come in a short wheel base, long wheel base and softop. The pics look kinda like the new Range Rover.
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Old June 2nd, 2004, 11:40 PM
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Here's one of the two drawings by mark stehrenberger it's not very big.
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Some bigger ones It will only let me download one for some odd reason but here's the link


http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/58549

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They left this part out in the Mag

I heard from a guy who's dating a girl who's the cousin of the accountant who does the local dealer's taxes who was told in a confidential email sent to everyone in the LR organization that....
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Old June 3rd, 2004, 12:01 AM
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Oh yeah, If you can't read German then check this out

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Old June 3rd, 2004, 12:18 AM
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The front doors remind me of the Ford SD trucks
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I find this all very depressing. They should stick with the old stuff. I like the old County RR's, the original Disco, all the series and the Defender of course. This new stuff just doesn;t do it for me, it makes me very sad.....
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Old June 3rd, 2004, 05:33 AM
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Old June 3rd, 2004, 05:34 AM
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I'll believe it when I see it. There are so many clients relying on the maintenance of a standard chassis and parts. Even the MoD told Ford they will not accept a redesign of the Defender.

Maybe their solution is to give us a "Defender2" we can park next to our H2s and keep making the real one for non-civilian consumption.
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