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Old April 3rd, 2004, 12:23 AM
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Defenders in 2006...sweet!
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Old April 6th, 2004, 04:33 PM
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Another note about the "New Defender"

I saw this info on the Disco III and the mentioned the new Defender

news - Land Rover Discovery Series III - updated 23/8/03 with new pics!
The vehicle to which we refer here is the Land Rover Discovery Series III, currently scheduled for launch in 2004 for the 05 model year.

From The Land Rover Chronicle:

A new Discovery is penciled in for 2005. The Discovery III will use an all new platform which will be shared with the Defender replacement also for 2005 and the baby Range Rover in 2006. Key features: expect more ground clearance, higher approach and departure angles, better on road handling and better off-road ability.

The price for the new Discovery will remain very close to the base price of the outgoing model, but the base petrol engine ( V8 ) will be replaced with a modified Jaguar V6. This new V6 will deliver around the same bhp with slightly less torque than the V8 it replaces. Of course the new V8 will also be from Jaguar and will command a higher price of around $5,000 more than the V6. A new line of Turbo diesel engines will appear ( although probably not in North America ), the new joint venture Ford/Peugeot 2.7 V6 TD will produce around the same bhp as the petrol V6, but with almost as much torque as the petrol V8.

The exterior for Discovery will be a revolution rather than an evolution. Key features: Rear mounted spare tire will move inside, new split tailgate similar to Range Rover's, optional long wheelbase, optional air-suspension, overall look much sportier.

We have also had reports that the Discovery Series III will feature a monocoque platform based on engineering experience from the Range Rover mk. 3. The Defender will also feature a monocoque platform by 2005. Some may argue that moving the Discovery over to a monocoque platform will destroy its off-road ability. However, we feel that it can only enhance things; many magazines have found that the Range Rover mk. 3 is actually better off-road that the Defender in many circumstances, and if this technology moves over to the Discovery, it too will hold the same sort of off-road prowess.

For information on the Discovery Series IIa, click here.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 07:59 PM
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I love reading stuff about the new defender , even if no one really knows if its gonna happen, where did u get that info??
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Old April 6th, 2004, 09:35 PM
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I agree with Mike. I can never seem to pass up a thread on any BBS regarding the new defender.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 09:51 PM
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Old April 7th, 2004, 02:19 AM
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You want a new Defender? I hear there's one for sale on this site with an experimental prototype Chevrolet 350 engine in it.
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Old April 7th, 2004, 10:41 AM
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Did anyone notice they are going to offer the Liberty with a diesel engine in '05?
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Old April 7th, 2004, 10:51 AM
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Yep and they say if there is enough interest they may put diesels in some of there other products. A friend of mine is really into diesels and he did a survey for Jeep.
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Old April 7th, 2004, 11:13 AM
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Man, if they put a diesel in the Rubicon....
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Old April 7th, 2004, 11:33 AM
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Then we will have another possible enging option, although it may have electronics in it.
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Old April 7th, 2004, 12:18 PM
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I think it would be cool to see that new grand caravan with a diesel in it. If he is doing diesel survey's for Jeep, then he ought to be looking at the same engine across the entire range of vehicles owned by Daimler-Chrysler.
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Old April 7th, 2004, 12:57 PM
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My bad, Daimler-Chrysler e-mailed him asking if he would do a phone survey for them. My friend is big into Biodiesel and he tried to contact them wanting info on the new Diesel Liberty.
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Old April 7th, 2004, 02:14 PM
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Old April 7th, 2004, 03:38 PM
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Then we will have another possible enging option, although it may have electronics in it.
I think it's a crude fact that just about any new car/engine that will be produced from now onwards will have some sort of electronic gizmo on or in it. As much as we don't want to accept it, it is the fact. Our perception of reliability (simple, easy to maintain, trail repairable) is different from theirs (electronic management and other gizmos that make the engines fix themselves.)

The only way we can have that simplicity is by building our own trucks like a few in this board have done, or are currently doing.
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Old April 7th, 2004, 04:38 PM
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You know, I don't mind the electronics in my 90. They are easy enough to work with and fix, its the newer cars that I don't like because you need another computer to figure out whats wrong.

OK preparing for a bashing for what I just said.
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Old April 7th, 2004, 04:47 PM
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I agree with you Mike. I think the D90 (and to a certain extent a D1's drivetrain) will be my limit as far as the definition of simplicity is. Obviously everything else that preceeds those models.
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I actually agree with you Mike. The '96 and up cars that had to be OBDII compliant are the real hassle. At least with yours, you can read the code reader for your fault code and know approximately what is wrong.

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Old April 7th, 2004, 05:20 PM
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For anyone who cares the info on the Disco III and Defender was found on a website called Disco2.com. I don't want to see my Defender's value go down the tubes! I may have to trade it in for a new one, not!
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Old April 7th, 2004, 05:42 PM
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Holy Crap Dave!




















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