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Old January 13th, 2004, 01:18 AM
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That's just some stupid concept art. 10 bucks says the final version will not resemble that POS.
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Old January 13th, 2004, 02:18 AM
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OOOOeee! I can't wait to put 22's on my D90!!!!
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Old January 13th, 2004, 09:34 AM
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I won't believe it until I see it. They'll either rebadge the 2-door explorer/bronco, or give us some plastic clad POS. Of both. Either way, it's not going to be what's produced today.
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Old January 13th, 2004, 12:24 PM
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Look around at every other single auto manufacturer. Is there ANY vehicle that's even remotely close to the Defender? I'm talking about more than styling, more like the utilitarian interior, the simple construction, the suspension, the overall 'feel' of the truck.

I would say the only thing that even comes close would be a...hmm...can't think of one.

A rebadged anything is NOT a Defender.
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Old January 13th, 2004, 02:54 PM
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I can't think of anything on the market even remotely similar to the defender right now. The most recent, and even then it's a stretch was the CJ's..... and that was the mid 1980's! Go back just a couple more years and you bump into stuff like the FJ-40, Scout II and others.

Personally, if it has a good ladder frame and good engine, I can deal with a front IFS to a point, depending on the type. But it damn well better not be a torsion bar setup.

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Old January 13th, 2004, 04:51 PM
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Already seen...posted in Nov '03 on another forum...
Ugly,the same way,IMHO.
As another pal wrote:
"One word - plastic"

Sigh...
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Old January 13th, 2004, 06:32 PM
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Why does everything "concept" look the same? Don't like it. Keep the body style as is.
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Old January 14th, 2004, 04:15 AM
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Because designers tend not to be rugged offroaders...
...I suppose...
Car companies should contract cartoonists for sketching that kinda trucks...I know one who'd be glad to do it...
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Old January 26th, 2004, 09:04 PM
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I replied already, but it got wiped out.

The current stance straight from LR is that they're not going to be selling the 2007 Defender in the US. They already have way too much demand worldwide, and developing it to US specs would have added too much to the cost.

So it look as we're not getting it. But everyone else should love it.
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Old February 9th, 2004, 07:36 PM
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No CKD Defender for the US?!

Was reading in LRW or LROI today that the CKD Defender will more than likely NOT be sold here in the US. They quoted a US spokesperson as saying that LR had no intentions of selling the CKD Defender in the US. LR just thought it would be a good idea to showcase it at the world's largest auto customization show. What a crock of crap! Why are they going to showcase something if they know we can't have it or aren't going to get it? Surely they weren't trying to market a nearly bog-standard 110 to the rest of the world, where they are readily available?
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Old February 9th, 2004, 08:06 PM
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Old February 9th, 2004, 08:42 PM
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Tease indeed. But on the bright side is that 110's will hold their value as well as the 90's. They were supposed to offer both as CKD's.
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Old February 10th, 2004, 04:37 AM
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don't believe everything you read. Look back at your 10 year old LRO's (or even 4-wheeler for that matter).

See how much they got wrong?



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Old February 10th, 2004, 08:59 AM
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Old February 10th, 2004, 11:27 AM
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Michael is the Jedi on this one, best to heed what he says.
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Old February 10th, 2004, 12:18 PM
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I know there are some CKD's in the US, brought in by individuals. I was just hoping that LRNA was going to make it easier/cheaper to get one. I hope the article was wrong, and I hope what Michael knows is right. I actually started looking for a CKD a couple of years ago, when Keith Gott was selling a few. From all the looking I did those things must be rare as hen's teeth (even though 20% of all defenders are CKD's).
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Old February 10th, 2004, 05:04 PM
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Now now, I didn't say I KNOW ANYTHING. All I know is that in the magazine world a lot of what is reported changes dramatically by the time the actual vehicles hit the road (or don't....).
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Old February 10th, 2004, 05:26 PM
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I didn't say you knew anything, I just said you were a Jedi
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Old February 11th, 2004, 12:24 PM
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Yeah, I even have the long hair too (can't grow a beard though to save my life).

"You don't need to see his identification...."

"Uh...we don't need to see your identification."
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