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Old June 14th, 2004, 08:44 AM
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Dealer just sold a 94 with 30k for more than new.

FORD GET YOUR HEAD OUR OF YOUR A$$ and GO WITH WHAT WORKS!

Don't see many 10 year old fords ON THE ROAD let alone selling for more than new.
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Old June 14th, 2004, 09:53 AM
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Problem is that legislation prevents what works. Both here and in the EU.

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Old June 16th, 2004, 01:07 PM
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Motor Trend LR Defender 2007-08

FYI to anyone who has heard this before and still has hope.


Sketchpad: Land Rover Defender
The best defense is a good offense

By Editors of Motor Trend
Photography by Mark Stehrenberger
Motor Trend, July 2004

The Defender, absent from this market since after the 1997 model year, returns to the United States in 2007 as a 2008 model. It retains its image as the purest, most committed sport/utility in Land Rover's lineup, although a smaller, more basic model reportedly is in the works for introduction a year later.

Land Rover is keen on cultivating the no-nonsense image of the Defender, which evokes the original postwar model made famous by the film "Born Free" and by the United Nations peacekeeping forces (before the Toyota Land Cruiser grabbed that market). The new model will remain functional and classic in design, but is expected to be a bit softer for the fun-seeking, less-affluent members of the youth market.



Now under Ford Motor Co.'s wings, the next Defender will be built with a new, modern body design on a steel frame. Short-wheelbase, long-wheelbase, and soft-top versions are in the works, although not all might be bound for North America. Gasoline engines will come from Ford: a direct-injection four with variable timing, a 3.0-liter Duratec V-6, and for the U.S. only, a 3.8-liter V-6. Peugeot will supply a 2.7-liter turbodiesel V-6 for Europe.

http://www.motortrend.com/future/spi...pad/index.html

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Old June 16th, 2004, 01:10 PM
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Old news man, I'm linking it to the old post.
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Old June 16th, 2004, 02:12 PM
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Now under Ford Motor Co.'s wings, the next Defender will be built with a new, modern body design on a steel frame. Short-wheelbase, long-wheelbase, and soft-top versions are in the works, although not all might be bound for North America. Gasoline engines will come from Ford: a direct-injection four with variable timing, a 3.0-liter Duratec V-6, and for the U.S. only, a 3.8-liter V-6. Peugeot will supply a 2.7-liter turbodiesel V-6 for Europe.


Is ford sub contracting Briggs and stratton Lawn mower division for the powerplant? V-6?
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Old June 16th, 2004, 04:43 PM
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The D90 is coming back!!!!!

I've got proof!

Here's the prototype....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...481992777&rd=1




























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Old June 16th, 2004, 04:57 PM
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That's the sweetest looking rover I have ever seen. And I mean sweet.
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Old June 16th, 2004, 05:17 PM
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WTF! AHHHHHHH WTF! Dave why are you selling your favorite ride! I know you told me not to tell anyone but since you put it up for sale.


So who wants a RRC with a fugly body on it and some Persian Carpets? I don't like it, after seeing all the attention Dave gets riding in it.



















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Old June 16th, 2004, 06:12 PM
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Holly crap This is yet another example for to much money not much taste.
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Old June 17th, 2004, 08:10 AM
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Mike, it's all about the panty factor....


Of course with that thing. I think it belongs in South Beach. And you won't necessarily get "panties" thrown at you, if you catch my drift. Perhaps some other type of "underwear"....

But I sure wouldn't know about it...
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Old June 17th, 2004, 08:34 AM
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Mike, it's all about the panty factor....


Of course with that thing. I think it belongs in South Beach. And you won't necessarily get "panties" thrown at you, if you catch my drift. Perhaps some other type of "underwear"....

But I sure wouldn't know about it...
Dave the underware that gets thrown at you depends on the driver. I'm still waiting on panties Dave B won't tell me his secret.
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Old June 18th, 2004, 11:39 AM
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You laugh guys, but that truck is closer to what will be the new Defender than we'd like to admit.

-"Lifestyle" vehicle meant to "accentuate your vision of who you want to be"
-Installed Carpet
-Full power accessories and pseudo luxury
-softer, trendy exterior styling with greater use of plastic
-trendy color scheme that will surely be dated within a year
-ride and feel meant for street comfort
-not intended to be kept for more than 4 years. Designed to be replaced after with new trendy personality piece.

When the new Defender has been on the market for 16 years, it will look every bit as bad as this aberation on e-bay does now. No one will be pining over it like a classic series model.
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Old July 1st, 2004, 02:14 AM
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Land Rover confirms new Defender!

I know rumors have been spreading forever. Thought everyone might want to know about this however.

taken from http://thelandroverchronicle.com/new_page_693.htm

Yesterday in Montreux, Switzerland, Matthew Taylor, Land Rovers managing director told Automotive News that Land Rover engineers are currently working on a replacement for Defender.
Matthew Taylor said, "The Defender is important. It is one of the few genuine auto icons. Our Challenge now is to see how we can successfully take it forward and make it a 21st Century icon".

According to Automotive News the next Defender will use Land Rovers new T5 platform architecture, a similar platform used for the new Discovery 3 / LR3 and upcoming Range Sport as Land Rover is moving to simplify its platforms from four to two.

Land Rover sells 27,000 Defenders a year. Defenders replacement will need to be easier to assemble, current Defender is still very much hand built compared to new Discovery which is 60 percent automated.

Automotive News did not confirm engines or any other specifications but recent reports from other sources have suggested a new inline-6 petrol and Land Rovers new TDV6. Unfortunately there are yet to be reports of petrol or diesel V8's, both are must haves for successful sales in North America.

Lets hope Land Rover hasn't forgotten their promise to engineer every new Land Rover for export to North America.
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Old July 1st, 2004, 09:07 AM
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Hmmph. We'll see.

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Defenders replacement will need to be easier to assemble, current Defender is still very much hand built compared to new Discovery which is 60 percent automated.
This strikes me as interesting. In plain words, they have just said it's not going to be the bolt up beauty it is now. Bummer. I should have expected that anyway.
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Old July 1st, 2004, 09:49 AM
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Basicly for us US folks, that says nothing really new and again, no indication on any eta or if it will return to the US. There has always been a plan in place to revamp the defender, the time line just keeps getting pushed around depending on the Defenders generating income. But it is always nice to read a little new info.
BTW, thank you for linking that correctly. Most people that link to that site doent get it right and its a goose hunt to find what they were linking to in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Lriwater: As you know, most wives don't like Series trucks due to the ride and lack of creature comforts. Girlfriends seem to like those, but some sort of magic happens during the wedding ceremony.
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Old July 1st, 2004, 10:35 AM
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Saw this on the RN board. Can you say explorer?

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Old July 1st, 2004, 11:36 AM
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Dont remember where these were posted but these were the most recent pictures of design ideas I have seen.
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Are those "Defenders" photoshopped? The lamps above the windscreen don't appear to be in the same plane of view and the reflections are precisly the same on the D90 and Bronc? Just curious.

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No idea... I saw them on a couple sites here and there but dont remember where these came from.
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Old July 1st, 2004, 01:38 PM
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Yup...those are definitely chop-jobs. Someone posted those on Dweb before. It won't be a bad design though if they decide to go that way. As long as they still make it as basic as the ones we have now, which I don't think they will.
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